PBP: MLS 2017 Week 26 & Stuff Continuous PBP Thread [Multiple R]

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  1. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    That didn't last long...

    O Venezuela...
     
  2. Golazo

    Golazo Member+

    Apr 15, 1999
    Decatur, GA USA
    I hate you with the intensity of 1,000 white-hot suns.


    Nice fish, though.
     
  3. The Franchise

    The Franchise Member+

    Nov 13, 2014
    Bakersfield, CA
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes. 15 points--one against Mexico and Costa Rica, six from T&T, and eight from the other two teams--is definitely enough for third. 13 points might be (especially with the best GD), 12 is doubtful, and anything less won't. Hard to say where the cutoff is for fourth.
     
  4. Autogolazo

    Autogolazo BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 19, 2000
    Bombay Beach, CA
    Still 0-0 in Panama minute 28, though not hoping for much.

    Best players on the Mex-CR pitch include MLSers Urena and Gio--according to Andres Cantor.
     
  5. Autogolazo

    Autogolazo BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 19, 2000
    Bombay Beach, CA
    GOL de Mexico!

    This result means CR has to play for everything vs Honduras in a month, can't back off.

    Panama winning now, of course.
     
  6. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Looking at past hexes.

    2014
    3rd - 15 points
    4th - 11 points


    2010

    3rd - 16 points
    4th - 16 points

    2006
    3rd - 16 points
    4th - 13 points

    2002

    3rd - 17 points
    4th - 14 points
    ***CCAF only had 3 spots instead of 3.5 ***

    1998
    3rd - 14 points
    4th - 12 points
    ***CCAF only had 3 spots instead of 3.5 ***

    They need all 6 to "leave no doubt".
     
  7. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Which Yank scores five goals in a meaningless third group game win?
     
  8. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Panama have scored a second goal.
     
  9. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Postgame note on this: one too many defenders survived from last game.
     
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  10. Paul Berry

    Paul Berry Member+

    Notts County and NYCFC
    United States
    Apr 18, 2015
    Nr Kingston NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Golazo Costa Rica 1-1
     
  11. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So close for Costa Rica in stoppage time.
     
  12. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Talking about wildfires and smoke, this is stunning:
     
  13. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Just catching up.

    So I was busy shooting Pulisic last night. A disappointing 1-1 draw against a much weaker opponent.

    Speaking of Will Pulisic, how'd the game with his cousin Christian go last night? I assume the US romped.
     
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  14. The Franchise

    The Franchise Member+

    Nov 13, 2014
    Bakersfield, CA
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm planning to make a results matrix later today to show what happens with various results, but Mexico has clinched. Costa Rica is a lock, not yet mathematically clinched, but they would need all the worst results and to lose tiebreakers they currently have solid leads in. Trinidad is technically alive, but they need two wins and to catch up on tiebreakers.

    The part to be determined is Panama, U.S., Honduras. The only match left among them is US-Pan. The weakest opponent any of them have is T&T-US. Both Panama and Honduras play Costa Rica, and Honduras plays Mexico. I have no idea how motivated either of those teams will or will not be.
     
  15. whiteonrice04

    whiteonrice04 Member+

    Sep 8, 2006
    I would love to see that. To me it seems a win against Panama is a must. Otherwise the path is very difficult.
     
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  16. SccrDon

    SccrDon Member+

    Dec 4, 2001
    Colorado Springs
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Cheer, cheer for the Red, White, and Gray
     
  17. The Franchise

    The Franchise Member+

    Nov 13, 2014
    Bakersfield, CA
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There are five games remaining with one of the three teams still in the hunt: US-Panama, Costa Rica-Honduras, Trinidad-US, Panama-Costa Rica, and Honduras-Mexico. At the moment, there are 243 possible outcome combinations, not including tiebreakers, which can be ignored.* The big game is US-Panama; the two currently sit in fourth and third, and it's the next match to be played.

    Because there are so many possible results, listing each is impractical, so I'll focus on match day nine with the matrix below for that day only. A few things are clear: winning on the road against the US will all but grant Panama an automatic bid if Honduras loses or draws. An American win is almost as decisive if Honduras loses, especially as the tenth match is the easiest for the Americans.

    Honduras's chances at an automatic spot are best if the big game is a draw, but they're further behind than it looks glancing at the standings. They probably need four points from two games to advance, and probably need all six for third, and maybe a bit of luck, too.

    US>Pan, CR>Hon: US 12, Pan 10, Hon 9
    US>Pan, CR=Hon: US 12, Pan 10, Hon 10
    US>Pan, CR<Hon: US 12, Hon 12, Pan 10
    US=Pan, CR>Hon: Pan 11, US 10, Hon 9
    US=Pan, CR=Hon: Pan 11, US 10, Hon 10
    US=Pan, CR<Hon: Hon 12, Pan 11, US 10
    US<Pan, CR>Hon: Pan 13, US 9, Hon 9
    US<Pan, CR=Hon: Pan 13, Hon 10, US 9
    US<Pan, CR<Hon: Pan 13, Hon 12, US 9

    Match ten is each of the three running separately; no telling how their opponents will head into the last day.

    *On tiebreakers: Presently, Panama (+2) has a better GD than the US (+1), but in any scenario where the two end up with equal points, the US will be at least equal, and almost certainly will have more goals scored (currently 7 for Panama and 12 for the US.) Honduras is well behind (-7), and lacks a head to head with either team to possibly make up the gap. Also, there is a mathematical possibility of Costa Rica falling to 4th or Trinidad rising to fourth, but that requires overcoming monumental GD gaps (14 and 12), so that's a curiousity but not worth serious contemplation.
     

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