TBF many of us wanted Arteta in preference to Emery. It’s great he is doing so well I will say this shows the best route for a team to develop future managers. Getting them into first team trainer roles at top clubs.
Jitty I believe im on the record as saying that I thought he would be good, just not here, since i had no faith in the hierarchy properly backing him so I was wrong in that regard but you are right the organic route is the only sustainable route for non oligarch owned clubs
The next trend in the sport will be big clubs identifying future coaches and managers and helping them get their coaching badges. Arsenal is doing that now and I have a feeling Xhaka has been tagged for that.
This is thing in rugby for a decade now. They usually learn within the culture, then go off somewhere else for some years and then a hired back. So you have like 2 or 3 people who can look to.
Super prominent in Aussie Rules. Finish your playing career, take a few years off, return as a part time specialist coach, become a part time assistant, coach a local team/school team, become an assistant full time, hope you are at a successful club with a strong culture, and then go into senior coaching.
I should add the big difference between Aussie Rules is because there are only 18 senior clubs, that waiting for a gig at an AFL team means a lot of players are assistant coaches for a solid amount of time. Its why there are a lot of assistant coaches who do very well in a senior gig on their first attempt. Some go to multiple clubs, some are assistants at just one, but they all do a solid spell as assistants to learn how to run teams, how to be involved at high level clubs etc. This is different to someone, like say Lampard, who has gotten straight into senior coaching and doesn't look like he knows what he is doing, and he really would have benefited as an assistant coach for a few years. Looking at his CV, he retired in 2016 and was Derby manager in 2018. Thats just not enough time especially when I can't find any information of him being an assistant manager in that gap. Meanwhile Arteta was assistant at City from 3rd July 2016 until 20th December 2019. So he got over 3 years as an assistant at City when they were performing at an insanely high rate to learn how to run a team at a big club.
Yes exactly. Whereas in Rugby, someone will be mentored in age group rugby, and get the feel for the performance culture, then go away elsewhere to perform at senior level, where they have to sink or swim. The problem with the Lampard "he knows his way round the club" entitlement approach is there is no evidence he has learned key aspects of high performance simply by being a player at a club. Mertesacker is a good example of an ex player being developed as a football executive as well. Ljungberg is a great example of what not to do.
Yes IMO He didn't have the background when he came into the first team coaching and was nowhere ready to be acting manager. It's kind of a shame because he doesn't seem to have recovered from it?
Freddie had 2-3 years of coaching in Arsenal's academy and the U23's before he was asked to step in as interim HC. But those 2-3 years are perhaps not the same as Mikel's being a first team assistant under Pep at Citeh. And then there's the fact that those 2 men are different humans. I think we are seeing now that Arteta has what it takes. Freddie? Not so sure. p.s. I absolutely loved Ljungberg as a player for us. But greatness as a player doesn't always translate to coaching.
And once again... https://www.arsenal.com/news/arteta-named-januarys-pl-manager-month Nice touch for the official photo to be the entire coaching staff. And let me just say that we have one very trim and fit- and trim-looking bunch of coaches!! Could that be one of his non-negotiables?