Apples and oranges maybe, but Jed York was unanimously considered a dope for his treatment of Harbaugh here in the bay. NO ONE thought he was capable of doing the right thing until he did.
Arteta out but who is a good replacement. Who would actually come here to Arsenal. We got little upside. The only solution is to offer the incoming manager silly wages like we did to keep Wenger.
The team could easily go in to freefall now Some of the better players likely will try to leave if they can. The Front Office needs to be sacked including Josh "Kushner" - a guy wildly out of his depth and Vinai after the ESL fiasco. Probably no one will get sacked.
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This is where the likes of Leipzig would sell him at a big profit and replace him with more young talents
Who knows what prices will be like. Teams are going to be both reluctant to spend and want premium prices for their players. I think the market may freeze up from lack of liquidity.
Yeah, but I don’t really imagine that Josh will sack himself. Or that daddy will take the toy away from him. Whether KSE gets tired of the situation and consider selling the club, that’s another matter.
This is going to be a gloomy month or so until summer officially begins. Because of that, I'm looking for a little devil's advocate? What are reasons to give Arteta the summer and half of next season? I ask this, because I highly doubt he's getting the sack. He'll at least get a preseason and a transfer window to try to make some ideas stick?
The only reason Arteta will stick around until November, is that the people running the club are spineless, and going to wait until the atmosphere becomes extremely toxic when fans are back, and then hide behind that to fire him. This summer is basically a waste, and next season is wasted too.
I can come up with reasons for keeping Arteta (and the biggest issues with Arsenal are squad related), but he can't be allowed to have a say on transfers. I mean, we're saying Arteta out, but the bigger issue is that ever since 2017, Arsenal's transfer policy has been a mess.
Yes. The last thing you want is a coach trying in the short term to save his job while also making decisions about the long-term future of the club.
THIS. i mean, i have concerns about him - both man management and tactical - but i see some things i like and can see a potentially good manager. but between his love for willian and luiz and his goalkeeping coach's recommendation of runar, son of runa, i don't necessarily want arteta to have a decisive say in transfers. i think it would be good for him to have input - whether position or style - but the final say needs to be with a decision maker above him who is NOT beholden to specific agents, whether that's with edu learning fast and growing a spine or we move on and try to poach someone like overmars.
If you don't trust his judgment on which players to sign, how can you trust his judgment on which players to play or what position to play them in? For me he's shown errors in judgment on all 3 fronts. That said, I'm still reaching a decision on whether I think he should be sacked now/summer. A lot depends on who we would get to replace him and how many times they've been around the block, i.e. making good with imperfect squads.
Honigstein was going in to some of the details of how it works at Bayern to explain the Flick fiasco. Basically the trainer gets no control over transfers, though he is consulted obvious. But apparently Bayern tend to give the trainer a player or two to keep them happy. I agree it makes no sense to buy players for Arteta when he might not make it to christmas
I'd have to have some idea of what Vinai does to have an opinion on whether or not he should be sacked. Edu, to me, is linked at the hip to Arteta. Fire them both.
I don't think he had any say in the matter, I assume he was carrying out orders from KSE. If we want him scapegoated, that's fine. But it's not like he was the ESL mastermind.
Do you think Vinai was driving that or just a yes-man tool of the Kroenkes? I've assumed the latter. Edit: Aha, I now see that you & Carlos have already agreed with that thought. But to Carlos's point, what exactly does Vinai do really? That's certainly not too clear to me.