Mejor arquero -Keeper- en Colombia?

Discussion in 'Colombia' started by Ilovecolombia redded, Aug 24, 2004.

  1. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Cuadrado fue la figura el sabado en el juego contra Tolima. Saco basicamente todo lo que le mandaron.
     
  2. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    he is still too green tho but I am impressed with him lately .... tho I still remember the 6 goals they scored on him .... and then the 4 ...... the next game...

    maybe in a few years.... I think its werid that Colombia is know going to use like real young keepers like Ospina, Brayan, cuadrado.... all in my mind are excellent also landuarzi but in my mind are all very green and make real stupid mistakes .... Brayan bloopers come to mind ahha

    Ospina to me is the best young keeper at the moment for us, and think he should be #2 keeper and our Friendly keeper against weaker teams... Like if we get a friendly against like France I dont want him to be a keeper but if we play like an Asian team or NA team why not.... the kid is better in my mind than Julio, Calero, Zapata and has proven it in the colombian league he just doenst have any international experience .....

    also those who hate on him for the game against Uruguay ... those goals werent his fault and the defense he had was very bad !!! He had 10 men the whole time he played and 2 goals were pks, and he had to come in for bone head calero who got red carded to stop a FING PK....

    the 3rd goal was his fault but as time goes on I think he will get alot lot better.
     
  3. MrPaisa

    MrPaisa New Member

    Jul 17, 2007
    Madison, NY
    I don't think people ver blamed him for the games against Uruguay, most people generally agree he couldn't do anything against those two PK.s
     
  4. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Colombians abroad 2007/2008

    A pesar de la derrota frente a Arsenal, parece que Zapata tuvo un buen partido con el Steua.

    Segun Uefa, Arsenal disparo 21 veces, 5 al marco, 4 tapo Zapata.
     
  5. hanzellmo

    hanzellmo Member

    Feb 25, 2007
    Bogota
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Re: Colombians abroad 2007/2008

    yo me lo estuve viendo y salvo mas de una, y el gol si fue una gran jugada
     
  6. MrPaisa

    MrPaisa New Member

    Jul 17, 2007
    Madison, NY
    Re: Colombians abroad 2007/2008

    LO tienen notado como le figura del encuentro...porque le fue muy bien...
     
  7. elcombo

    elcombo New Member

    Oct 5, 2004
    julio para mi no es portero ese hombre es horrible. no tiene ni estilo o presensia. siempre que la caga se hace el lesionado. da mucho rebote tiene mal saque. uy no me explico como vas ser titular. por ahi mensionan a brayan. ese es otro malo q no tiene ni potencial desde que llego bobadillo y lo sento mmi dim no a perdido. dicen que quieren empesar un proceso nuevopues hagamolo y pongagos a ospina como titular. y como # 2 a zapata.
     
  8. MrPaisa

    MrPaisa New Member

    Jul 17, 2007
    Madison, NY
    Zapata? si pa que se tire a casar mariposas como contra Peru, no gracias!
     
  9. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    A Ospina no le perdonan las expulsiones que le perdonan en Medellin por jugar voleibol fuera del area...

    Realmente en este momento no hay ningun arquero que sea mas que los demas, de categoria super internacional. Hay muchos porteros buenos, como se ve en Landazuri, Blandon, el que era suplente de Rufay, pero ninguno que uno diga, con ese me la juego.... Yo pensaba que Neko iba a llenar ese vacio, pero su enfermedad lo saco de carrera. De todos modos son unas eliminatorias largas, es muy posible que si alguno destaca y evoluciona se convierta en nuestro portero del futuro...
     
  10. minus

    minus Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jul 18, 2004
    Miami,FL
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I don't have a problem with any of the keepers. I admit that Rufay might the best when he is mentally there. He has the best hops and best reaction but has mental lapses where he does something stupid. He is the only on to me that really stands out. I don't see what the big fuss about Ospina. I haven't seen play much and the times that I've he has been unimpressive.

    I agree with Dapip that Neko would have been the best choice but health problems set him back.
     
  11. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Ospina is like the least beaten keepr this season and last :)

    yea .... and he is um 19.....

    but I guess he isnt that impressive when he does bad it is usually because Nacionals Defense is bad.

    the millos game 3-2 was because their was no DM .... Amaya didnt play and it really hurt the team... didnt like the midget after that game.
     
  12. yj777

    yj777 Member

    Jun 28, 2007
    Bogota, Colombia
    Club:
    --other--
    so what?
    Blandon is 22 and is already making history with Millos, and i don't see anyone here hyping him.. like you have hyped Ospina in 100000 posts..

    i remember when you used to hype Troncallega with the same old "he is only 22 years old" excuse..
     
  13. dapip

    dapip Member+

    Sep 5, 2003
    South Florida
    Club:
    Millonarios Bogota
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    The success of A.Nal defense can be tracked to one player: Ivan Hurtado. As he goes the whole system goes. Amaya sucks, Velez and Zuniga are not very good defenders and Mendoza is iffy when facing fast strikers (altough good defending crosses).

    If Hurtado plays well, Ospina does not have much work. If he is suspended or in an off night, Ospina gets scored on a lot. He'll save some, but I think that there is too much hype about him.
     
  14. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    this kid has played 2 games... Ospina 2-3 seasons....

    I mean u cant really compare both of them right now

    I like Neko the best but he is injured so we cant really talk about him then Ospina cause he is young and showing great things but I do like alot of our other young keepers except brayn bloopers

    who do u think should be keeper....
     
  15. hanzellmo

    hanzellmo Member

    Feb 25, 2007
    Bogota
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I want Libis back :'(
     
  16. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    he is in uruguay.... he is 2nd goalie for central esponala i believe and is owned by a 3rd div team..... give up on the kid haha

    i did, and became a Ospina fan boy
     
  17. hanzellmo

    hanzellmo Member

    Feb 25, 2007
    Bogota
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    yeah i knew about that, but i still have faith in him maybe in 2 or 3 years he'll give me a surprise:p
     
  18. yj777

    yj777 Member

    Jun 28, 2007
    Bogota, Colombia
    Club:
    --other--
    Chile ya se comio dos goles de Tiro Libre de el genio Riquelme..
    sera que Julio puede atajarle un tiro libre a Riquelme? porque Zapata no pudo en la semifinal Boca vs. Cucuta..
     
  19. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    zapata couldnt because of the snow.... he did alot better in colombia if u dont remember.
     
  20. yj777

    yj777 Member

    Jun 28, 2007
    Bogota, Colombia
    Club:
    --other--
    you mean the because of the fog..
    it only snows in Buenos Aires about every 70 years..

    i would start Zapata against Argentina..
     
  21. hanzellmo

    hanzellmo Member

    Feb 25, 2007
    Bogota
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    + 1
     
  22. crzdcolombian

    crzdcolombian Member+

    Jul 17, 2006
    Avon,CT
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I dont know if Moreno and Julio have an amazing game and we somehow keep a clean sheet or even beat brasil I am afriad that both these guys will be starters

    I tho Pinto did say if Robinho starts than Zapata will start for COlombia and Dunga confirmed Robinho starting tommorrow.

    Julio is a good keeper and has been unbeaten for 500+ minutes but he hasnt played any good teams. Ok Paraguay but the same paraguay that 3 days before lost 3-2 to venezulea !!!! come on lets be serious now. Also he has been getting scored on alot in the Copa Mustang.... we need Neko to get healthy and soon

    Zapata had 2 brain farts against Peru and cost us the W, has good international experience but just isnt a smart guy or has A.D.D

    Ospina is still too green but the game against urguay was Moreno and Hurtados of Cucutas fault for commiting 2 pks and Calero for getting red carded so quickly

    the real problem now is that we dont have a stand out keeper like when we had Cordoba and Mondragon. We have 3 good/decent keepers that Pinto has in mind but no one that really is all that great or extrodinary... like before maybe a in a few years as we ahve alot of promising keepers like OSpina, Libis, the Millos guys, and even brayan haha
     
  23. yj777

    yj777 Member

    Jun 28, 2007
    Bogota, Colombia
    Club:
    --other--
    Is it me, or does the MLS (and the USA NT) have an amazing array of goalkeepers?

    I would take Perkins and a few other MLS GKs any time over Julio or Zapata..
     
  24. hanzellmo

    hanzellmo Member

    Feb 25, 2007
    Bogota
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    well Zapata showed some good things in CL game, and we can't let that go, i watched almost the whole game and he was the best of his team, that's something special and i think put's him above Julio.
     
  25. yj777

    yj777 Member

    Jun 28, 2007
    Bogota, Colombia
    Club:
    --other--
    Julio has been great in all his NT games, he is the unquestioned starter..
    i am mostly worried about the Riquelme free kicks when we play Argentina..
     

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