Match 57 (QF): NED : ARG - MATEU LAHOZ (ESP)

Discussion in 'World Cup 2022 - Refereeing' started by balu, Dec 7, 2022.

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What do you think of Mateu Lahoz's performance?

Poll closed Dec 10, 2022.
  1. 1 (worst)

    26.4%
  2. 2

    17.0%
  3. 3

    24.5%
  4. 4

    20.8%
  5. 5

    3.8%
  6. 6

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. 7

    3.8%
  8. 8

    1.9%
  9. 9

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. 10 (best)

    1.9%
  1. USSF REF

    USSF REF Guest

    That is an acceptable solution.
     
  2. fairplayforlife

    fairplayforlife Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Then why the dropped ball restart?
     
  3. AremRed

    AremRed Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    If you think soccer ever appropriately punishes taunting/instigating behavior, think again.

    Was 4O this year and had an idiot D1 coach argue with me when his player got cautioned for running 30 yards to get in an opponents face after a goal.
     
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  4. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    Especially when it would create an attacking IFK in the PA. Gonna take a lot more than that for a ref to stop play to card a keeper who just got bumped.
     
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  5. BlueNosedRef

    BlueNosedRef Member

    Sep 5, 2011
    Or he saw simultaneous offenses of equal severity, which, although not in the text of the Laws anymore, is apparently still something The IFAB think should be a dropped ball:

     
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  6. StarTime

    StarTime Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2020
    I guess MassRef's explanation makes sense, theoretically. I need to go back to watch to see who was booked and who was involved prior to the whistle. I feel like he just stopped play because he saw misconduct already happening, knew he was pulling out yellow cards, but didn't want to give a controversial IFK.
     
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  7. fairplayforlife

    fairplayforlife Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Seems like he BS his way through a loophole to me.
     
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  8. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Okay, but Lisandro Martinez hadn't done a thing when he blew the whistle. So that's not it.

    We're over-thinking it. A creative referee got the best solution he wanted in the moment. I don't think he was going through the LOTG in his head at the time, but if he was, the general outline is above. Blow the whistle for "nothing" there and the restart goes to the goalkeeper, which is the safest route (unless the GK committed VC, of course). Whether Mateu knew that cold per the Laws and made a conscience choice ahead of time or just landed there out of common sense is anyone's guess.
     
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  9. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
  10. fairplayforlife

    fairplayforlife Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh dang

    clearly the Argentine player baiting for some opposing cards with the kick after the foul.
     
  11. StarTime

    StarTime Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2020
    88' what is the reason for the YC, SPA? Surely not reckless? I don't see it.
     
  12. USSF REF

    USSF REF Guest

    89'

    This is the game he created.
     
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  13. AremRed

    AremRed Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    That HAS to be a 2CT.
     
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  14. Ickshter

    Ickshter Member+

    Manchester City
    Mar 14, 2014
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Now THIS will be interesting...
     
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  15. Gacm32

    Gacm32 Member+

    Chelsea
    Switzerland
    Nov 28, 2010
    Geneva
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    Switzerland
    Wow. Enzo Fernandez should be sent off for the foul and firing the ball into the bench that way.
     
  16. soccerref69420

    soccerref69420 Member+

    President of the Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz fan cub
    Mar 14, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea DPR
    88’. AND HERE WE GO
     
  17. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But it's both lawful and it doesn't harm anyone. Do you want an IFK going in there? Coming out? I mean, what's the issue?
     
  18. StarTime

    StarTime Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2020
    Then a missed foul by Ake on Messi and a revenge tackle, ugh.
     
  19. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    So, why is Paredes still on the field?
     
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  20. AremRed

    AremRed Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    Absolute coward. Ridiculous.
     
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  21. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Berghuis would have been off in a La Liga match.
     
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  22. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Haha. Elfath ignoring the 2yc looks like nothing now.
     
  23. fairplayforlife

    fairplayforlife Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How. Just how is there no red issues there…
     
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  24. cleansheetbsc

    cleansheetbsc Member+

    Mar 17, 2004
    Club:
    --other--
    C'mon ref! You're losing control!
     
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  25. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh dear. Mateu Lahoz HAD to give a red there.
     
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