Match 57 (QF): NED : ARG - MATEU LAHOZ (ESP)

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What do you think of Mateu Lahoz's performance?

Poll closed Dec 10, 2022.

  1. 1 (worst)

    14 vote(s)
    26.4%

  2. 2

    9 vote(s)
    17.0%

  3. 3

    13 vote(s)
    24.5%

  4. 4

    11 vote(s)
    20.8%

  5. 5

    2 vote(s)
    3.8%

  6. 6

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  7. 7

    2 vote(s)
    3.8%

  8. 8

    1 vote(s)
    1.9%

  9. 9

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  10. 10 (best)

    1 vote(s)
    1.9%
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  1. BlueNosedRef

    BlueNosedRef Member

    Sep 5, 2011
    #76 BlueNosedRef, Dec 9, 2022
    71' - Whether you like this PK or not, that's not getting an OFR.
     
  2. ColoradoRef

    ColoradoRef Member

    Jul 10, 2011
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #77 ColoradoRef, Dec 9, 2022
    That penalty call was SO casual and confident.
     
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  3. fairplayforlife

    fairplayforlife Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #78 fairplayforlife, Dec 9, 2022
    That was close.
     
  4. StarTime

    StarTime Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2020
    #79 StarTime, Dec 9, 2022
    This penalty gives me flashbacks to the early penalty in ESP-NED 2014. It looks so similar to that foul. Before it all fell apart for Spain!
     
  5. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #80 MassachusettsRef, Dec 9, 2022
    For all the the talk about Mateu stealing the show, I love how he does it in the most understated way possible sometimes. The most nonchalant penalty award you'll ever see at a WC. Ted Unkel, that was not.
     
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  6. AremRed

    AremRed Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    #81 AremRed, Dec 9, 2022
    He always does what you least expect!
     
  7. soccerref69420

    soccerref69420 Member+

    President of the Antonio Miguel Mateu Lahoz fan cub
    Mar 14, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Korea DPR
    #82 soccerref69420, Dec 9, 2022
    75’ how many times is Lahoz gonna double tweet to no effect lol
     
  8. AremRed

    AremRed Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    #83 AremRed, Dec 9, 2022
    TWEET TWEET MFERS
     
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  9. fairplayforlife

    fairplayforlife Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #84 fairplayforlife, Dec 9, 2022
    So the stoppage itself was for the pitch invader I’m guessing?
     
  10. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #85 MassachusettsRef, Dec 9, 2022
    I was about to ask. How he ends up with a dropped ball is, um, interesting...
     
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  11. StarTime

    StarTime Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2020
    #86 StarTime, Dec 9, 2022
    75': Restart as a... dropped ball? Assuming he's not stopping play for a foul committed against the goalkeeper, why's he stopping it at all? He gives some yellow cards in the end, presumably he stopped play because of some kind of misconduct that was happening. Surely this should result in an indirect free kick, no?
     
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  12. BlueNosedRef

    BlueNosedRef Member

    Sep 5, 2011
    #87 BlueNosedRef, Dec 9, 2022
    Seems so. And a caution came out for Depay and Martinez each in the confrontation.
     
  13. Ickshter

    Ickshter Member+

    Manchester City
    Mar 14, 2014
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #88 Ickshter, Dec 9, 2022
    LOL. Nice cadence on the Whistle there after the dust up between Keeper and DeJong
     
  14. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #89 MassachusettsRef, Dec 9, 2022
    No replay yet for the 77' penalty shout for the Dutch, right?
     
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  15. BlueNosedRef

    BlueNosedRef Member

    Sep 5, 2011
    #90 BlueNosedRef, Dec 9, 2022
    I think the sequence is: fair challenge; goalkeeper collects; pitch invaded (the reason for stopping play, so DB); confrontation and 2 YCs, one for each side.
     
  16. USSF REF

    USSF REF Guest

    #91 USSF REF, Dec 9, 2022
    I'll look again , but I mean, can you at least tell me while I wait for the ability to go back, was there any playing reason for his hands to go up? Like jumping to head or anything that could in anyway justify the arm coming up to block the service?
     
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  17. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    #92 socal lurker, Dec 9, 2022
    Gee, why would we want to see that? Thanks Fox.
     
  18. Casper

    Casper Member+

    Mar 30, 2001
    New York
    #93 Casper, Dec 9, 2022
    I actually think it was pretty effective at keeping it from boiling over.
     
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  19. gaolin

    gaolin Member+

    Apr 21, 2019
    #94 gaolin, Dec 9, 2022
    Surprised no card on ARG keeper for standing over the NED player for dissent
     
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  20. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
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    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #95 MassachusettsRef, Dec 9, 2022
    I actually highly doubt he stopped for a pitch invader. It will make some LOTG sticklers lose their mind, but I'd say...

    1) Stop play for "other reason, not mentioned in Laws." At this point, he clearly hasn't decided to give any misconduct, he just wants to prevent escalation. And restart is automatically to goalkeeper.

    2) Punishable misconduct occurs and is observed.

    3) Pitch invader.

    4) Cards given.

    5) Restart dropped ball, per #1, because you didn't stop play to give the cards.
     
  21. USSF REF

    USSF REF Guest

    #96 USSF REF, Dec 9, 2022
    They're was one. It is softer than Elfath's by a measure.
     
  22. StarTime

    StarTime Member+

    United States
    Oct 18, 2020
    #97 StarTime, Dec 9, 2022
    Based upon how long it took for the commentators to (abruptly) mention the pitch invader, I have serious doubts that the pitch invasion happen and Lahoz noticed it, all before the whistle sounded.
     
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  23. BlueNosedRef

    BlueNosedRef Member

    Sep 5, 2011
    #98 BlueNosedRef, Dec 9, 2022
    Dissent is always directed at match officials (it's an open challenge of their authority, by word or action). You might mean unsporting behavior. FWIW, two different players (one for each side) were cautioned.
     
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  24. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #99 MassachusettsRef, Dec 9, 2022
    No, but why should that matter?
     
  25. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    #100 socal lurker, Dec 9, 2022
    That's why its a foul. IFAB expressly limited tactical handling to SPA a few years ago. Neither IFAB nor FIFA want a caution there.
     
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