Match 49: ITA : ESP - BRYCH (GER)

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  1. balu

    balu Member+

    Oct 18, 2013
    Match #49
    Italy : Spain
    Tuesday, 6 July 2021
    20:00 local time (15:00 EDT)
    London

    Referee: Felix Brych (GER)
    AR1: Mark Borsch (GER)
    AR2: Stefan Lupp (GER)
    Fourth Official: Sergei Karasev (RUS)

    Video Assistant Referee: Marco Fritz (GER)
    AVAR 1: Christian Dingert (GER)
    AVAR 2: Christian Gittelmann (GER)
    AVAR 3: Bastian Dankert (GER)
     
  2. Pierre Head

    Pierre Head Member+

    Dec 24, 2005
    Almost a clean sweep for Germany!
    Not having kept close records, is this the most from one country on a match so far?

    PH
     
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  3. kolabear

    kolabear Member+

    Nov 10, 2006
    los angeles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Anyone care to assess for us layfolk what the odds of a major controversy over officiating (or outright sh!tsh0w) became as opposed to what we could've expected if another CR had been appointed, someone more highly recommended by the Assembled Wisdom of BigSoccer?
    From, perhaps, 1-in-5 (it's Italy vs Spain after all) to, perhaps 1-in-3?! 50-50?!
     
  4. Pittsburgh Ref

    Pittsburgh Ref Member+

    Oct 7, 2014
    da 'Burgh
    I think it's 55/45 and pick-em.
     
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  5. Pierre Head

    Pierre Head Member+

    Dec 24, 2005
    He will do a good job as usual, (I hope).
    Despite the surprise at the number of games he has been appointed to, he is a very experienced and competent referee, and should get the respect of both teams, players and coaches.

    PH
     
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  6. calabrese8

    calabrese8 Member+

    Feb 9, 2008
    Vancouver
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    i'm pretty certain the Italians are not happy with this appointment of Brych. He's been anti Serie A for years in the champions league.
     
  7. Rufusabc

    Rufusabc Member+

    May 27, 2004
    Let’s take a quick look, shall we?

    Europa League 2021 ROMA 3 Man U 2. The only Serie A club he refereed this past year.

    CL 19/20
    Napoli 2 Liverpool 0
    Napoli 1 Barcelona 1 (Vidal of Barca 2ct)

    CL 18/19

    Valencia 0 Juventus 2 (Ronaldo red card, 2 penalties for Juve)

    You have to go back to 17/18 for the first loss for a Serie A club with Brych in the middle.

    Kind of a thin premise, don’t you think?
     
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  8. Pierre Head

    Pierre Head Member+

    Dec 24, 2005
    Which could be why Italy did not veto the selection.
    Maybe Spain had more reason, or even England going by these results!

    PH
     
  9. AremRed

    AremRed Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    Dumb opinion is dumb. More at 11.
     
  10. RedStar91

    RedStar91 Member+

    Sep 7, 2011
    Club:
    FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd
    I don't think I've ever seen the referees wear the UEFA "Respect" band that the captains for the teams usually wear on their arms.

    Has anyone seen it before?
     
  11. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think it's keeping his receivers in place. Some referees have a natural tendency for the sleeve not to come down and the receiver consequently shows. Looks like Brych grabbed a UEFA armband so it would look "better"(?). Whether he did it himself or someone told him to do it is anyone's guess.

    The tackle that ended that frantic moment at 21' didn't look pretty, but I tend to think the first yellow of this match is going to be crystal clear and that wasn't it.
     
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  12. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2006
    I always enjoy the communication skills of Brych.
     
  13. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2006
    Spain are going down a lot when being pressured from behind. Brych is having none of it.
     
  14. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    Was that a PO warning?
     
  15. mathguy ref

    mathguy ref Member+

    Nov 15, 2016
    TX
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    He gave the old “count 1, 2, 3” on the fingers.
     
  16. Rufusabc

    Rufusabc Member+

    May 27, 2004
    Taylor Twellman cannot recognize a foul. It’s amazing.

    I don’t know why he always ignores the obvious.
     
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  17. Rufusabc

    Rufusabc Member+

    May 27, 2004
    In 44th, I thought the takedown at the halfway line might have been yellow for Spain.
     
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  18. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Admittedly, the game's on my phone while I'm in the office, but that Spain foul in the 44th minute would have been a good place to get a SPA caution. The Italians were at speed on the attack in the Spain half. Brych's doing a good job of managing the game with his personality, but I think that would have been the right place to use a card immediately before half.
     
  19. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That half went exactly how Brych wanted it to go and how anyone paying attention would expect it to go.

    The only big questions are if Brych can find a "clean" first yellow that simultaneously doesn't open the floodgates but isn't totally inconsistent with the high line he has already established. And then whether or not he can avoid that one big controversial moment that feels inevitable to me if this stays tight for 90-120 minutes.
     
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  20. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But most/all of the previous warnings were to the Italians. Brych probably missed a "mandatory" yellow at 35', in fact.

    So for that to be the first yellow, with 1 minute left in the half of a 0-0 game? Nope. It's against the wrong team.
     
  21. Pierre Head

    Pierre Head Member+

    Dec 24, 2005
    He's trying to get a no YC match just like last time. As you say, it will take something really good for him to
    pull the card.

    PH
     
  22. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not sure I'd go that far. Brych isn't the type who conciously avoids cards, as his record in UEFA competitions shows. But I think he knows this game could have 8-9 yellow cards if it has 1 or 2 early, so he's making sure that first one truly is worth it.

    It's effectively the same thing in the first half. But the difference is I don't think he ignores a "clear" card in the 65' or 70' because at that point it will be useful to him if he does it right. That 44' foul would not have been a useful card and probably would have been counterproductive.
     
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  23. AremRed

    AremRed Member+

    Sep 23, 2013
    The score is certainly helping. Brych knows as soon as someone scores the real shithousery is gonna come out. And he’s saving his cards for that.
     
  24. RefIADad

    RefIADad Member+

    United States
    Aug 18, 2017
    Des Moines, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The best possible scenario for Brych is for a goal in stoppage time. Limits the housery time, and keeps the teams focused on actually playing instead of all of the extracurricular activity. Neither team will want to risk something dumb with the score at 0-0.
     
  25. Pittsburgh Ref

    Pittsburgh Ref Member+

    Oct 7, 2014
    da 'Burgh
    And now the toothpaste is out of the tube
     

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