Match 23 - ENG : UKR - KASSAI (HUN)

Discussion in 'Euro 2012: Refereeing' started by MassachusettsRef, Jun 17, 2012.

  1. MassachusettsRef

    MassachusettsRef Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 30, 2001
    Washington, DC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tuesday, 19 June - Donetsk - 2:45 EST
    England : Ukraine
    Referee: Viktor KASSAI (HUN)
    Assistant Referee 1: Gábor Erös (HUN)
    Assistant Referee 2: György Ring (HUN)
    Additional Assistant Referee 1: István Vad (HUN)
    Additional Assistant Referee 2: Tamás Bognar (HUN)
    Fourth Official: Tom Harald Hagen (NOR)
    Reserve Assistant Referee: Damien Macgraith (IRL)
    UEFA Delegate: Armen Minasyan (ARM)
    UEFA Referee Observer: Marc Batta (FRA)

    This thread is for all pre-, play-by-play, and post-match discussion of the referee and other officials on the match. Only news and analysis or other facts/information related to the referees and the officiating should be posted here. This is not a team or rivalry thread and will be heavily moderated to ensure it remains that way. Please read the stickied thread at the top of this forum if you have further questions. Thank you.
     
  2. SimpleGame6

    SimpleGame6 Member

    Apr 16, 2012
    Club:
    Aberdeen FC
    Do people have jobs or something? Take the day off it's Euros!
     
  3. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nothing really to discuss.
     
  4. MrPerfectNot

    MrPerfectNot Member+

    Jul 9, 2011
    Denver, CO
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And I was hoping to discuss something! I have both matches up and there really is nothing to discuss.....

    (Did I jinx it enough?)
     
  5. SimpleGame6

    SimpleGame6 Member

    Apr 16, 2012
    Club:
    Aberdeen FC
    Wow that run was crazy...zigging and zagging all over the place.
     
  6. SimpleGame6

    SimpleGame6 Member

    Apr 16, 2012
    Club:
    Aberdeen FC
    Props to the Ukrainian guy for not whining about the handling that wasn't anything. Thanks to the TV crew for trying to making a mountain out of a molehill.
     
  7. thepremierleague

    Mar 14, 2001
    London
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I've noticed how little discussion there is in general in therse Euro forums. Games barely have 3 pages compared to Champions league games which have pages and pages.

    Maybe people don't know where this forum is. Although England often has its own discussion thread.
     
  8. DudsBro

    DudsBro Member

    Jan 12, 2010
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Somewhat misleading...there are more posts per page with the new layout. Although there probably has been a bit less discussion - a good thing for the tournament? lol
     
  9. thepremierleague

    Mar 14, 2001
    London
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Sure there are more posts per page true.

    I think one other reason is the Champions League posters are ofren from the Americas and around the world who support European clubs, hence all the posts.

    There aren't as many actual Europeans on this website for the Euro 2012 games.

    By the way 1-0 England :D
     
  10. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    TALKING POINTS!

    Replay..
     
  11. DudsBro

    DudsBro Member

    Jan 12, 2010
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Big no goal decision on the England line by the AAR, and counter attack leads to a tactical yellow on the top of the Ukraine penalty area.

    Haven't seen a replay of the decision yet

    Edit: Oh dear...saw a replay - that's in I think
     
  12. SimpleGame6

    SimpleGame6 Member

    Apr 16, 2012
    Club:
    Aberdeen FC
    That's IN! I Can't Believe you can't see that...Horrible!

    And a missed offside on the Buildup!
     
  13. FireTrapatoni

    FireTrapatoni Member+

    AS Roma
    Italy
    Jun 17, 2004
    What a joke of a call, england won't go much farther with their defense.
     
  14. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Well it's clear that human goal line technology doesn't work. Next????
     
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  15. code1390

    code1390 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 25, 2007
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    [​IMG]

    Kassai's AR probably just killed him.

    Thats close enough to give the AAR the benefit of the doubt but the AR completely botched an offside call in the leadup.
     
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  16. akindc

    akindc Member+

    Jun 22, 2006
    Washington, DC
    Oh dear...offside on the build-up, then the ball was over the line. In this case, two wrongs did make a right.
     
  17. SimpleGame6

    SimpleGame6 Member

    Apr 16, 2012
    Club:
    Aberdeen FC
    I guess we have to use Technology...I thought humans would be enough but apparently these referees have never played video games and can't see a damn thing.
     
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  18. asdf44

    asdf44 Member

    Jun 19, 2008
    Richmond VA
    Offside call wasn't correct and neither was the goal no goal decision. Worked out well.
     
  19. CanadaFTW

    CanadaFTW Member

    Jun 21, 2007
    Really obvious offside miss on the buildup. I mean I have no idea how the AR missed that call, the England defender is to the left of the dark/light green boundary, and the attacker to the right. Biggest blown offside of the tournament so far, which is almost fortunately mitigated by the miss of the ball being in right after.
     
  20. hindudot1788

    hindudot1788 Member

    Apr 25, 2009
    Did those two missed offsides and the missed goal call just sink Kassai's chance of a knockout game?
     
  21. DudsBro

    DudsBro Member

    Jan 12, 2010
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    My only thought is that the AAR had the same problem I'm having with the replay:
    - White ball
    - White socks

    The blur on the replay makes it impossible for me personally to say 100% for sure goal (but I am English....) and possibly that was the AAR's problem.



    Edit: Scratch that - just saw the screenshot posted above, its clear.
     
  22. Rufusabc

    Rufusabc Member+

    May 27, 2004
    Two consecutive OS missed and then no goal. Well. Well. Ian Darke giving the benefit of the doubt to the AAR.
     
  23. SimpleGame6

    SimpleGame6 Member

    Apr 16, 2012
    Club:
    Aberdeen FC
    Oh stop with this two wrongs make a right thing...this is a refereeing thread and we're analyzing refereeing failures.
     
  24. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    Two wrongs don't make a right!:p
     
  25. FireTrapatoni

    FireTrapatoni Member+

    AS Roma
    Italy
    Jun 17, 2004
    Except they haven't been calling offside all game.
     

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