Marcus Haber Signs for West Brom (England)

I have my reasons for my dislike of this player and his attitude towards his former teammates and the club that gave him a chance here in Canada.

 

I was referring to the Whitecaps who gave him a chance to make a name for himself over here; only for him to turn his back for some pipe dream he is not good enough to achieve. All the while treating his teammates with arrogance.

 

ignoring IronSheik so far one of the best decisions I have done on BS.

 

you're beginning to sound like the Sheik-- going on and on about nothing-- i think us soccer board members can make up our own mind about deleting the Sheik without you leading the 'cattle call'

your campaign to ignore him is as repetitive as the Sheik's comments, but more manipulative!

 

yes, but all the minions will follow "whiteisthecolor" blindly without thinking for themselves. People dislike my opinions so instead of open debate they hide behind ignore buttons.

 

wow you fail m8 seriously it was whiteisthecolor who posted that thread so shut up and learn to read, I'm leading no campaign against him so get your facts or don't post.

 

YOu think the 95% of people who buy tickets for Caps games are not supporters of the club (Even thought there would be no club without them; 200 southsiders don't keep the Caps in business).

So, really, you lack crediblity in the real world and only your small group of Big Soccer buddies care what you have to say.

 

latest game for haber in the scottish league- st johnstone-2-1 win at home

attendance= 3 349

haber's contribution- came on at the 88th minute, no goals/assists

and this is supposed to help his progress as a professional soccer player!!??

 

Are you trying to be cheeky or are you simply lazy?

Five SPL matches, four starts.

 

if he was soooo good in his 4 starts, why would he be benched in game 5??? and how many goals/assists has he scored for st J-- i believe 1?

attacking another person's opinions and character are simpletons trying to intimidate-- a great bully tactic

the question i am raising is, 'why would haber seek his fortunes in a league that has no higher quality (except for rangers and celtic) than the caps/NASL, especially considering their rise to MLS next year?' i really believe his best hope of becoming a professional soccer player is in NA, and even that goal is limited IMO

as far as i know, he has 3 goals in about the last 30 games he has played in (2 with the Caps and 1 with st j)-- not the kind of potential that warrents his goal of reaching euro in a quality league-- he needs to 'wake up and smell the coffee'-- he has limited potential and playing in the SPL with a lower league team will NOT enhance his opportunities-- his best hope would have been with the Caps and MLS

when he is cut by west brom, i hope the Caps do not take him back

 

thx for the compliment-- at least the Shiek wrote to stimulate others to respond mostly with anger and disgust; i found him to be humorous, as i did not take his comments too seriously, and sometimes insightful - long threads accompanied him- most of the Caps supporters express the same points of view-- like monkey see, monkey do-- if a writer takes a different point of view than them, they attack with vigor and complain to the Big Soccer Board moderators, finally resulting in the Sheik being banned

no one should feel intimidated or threatened with extermination from this Board for expressing different, maybe contentious, sometimes ridiculous, views

i wish haber well, but he will be back on this side of the pond in short order-- if u had have been following my comments on haber, you would know that i have not changed my point of view-- he plays with heart, passion, committment, aggression, but is simply not good enough technically to be able to score-- which is his main role as striker-- at a higher level than USL/NASL-- if u remember on his short visit to play with the Caps this summer, haber scored 2 goals (1 on a PK) in the 11 games he played

IMO, haber should have stayed with the Caps another year and try to improve on his 2009 season, get more experience and establish himself as a proven goal-scorer; it could also have increased his chances of sticking with the Caps as they go to MLS in 2011-- i doubt that we will ever see him in a Caps MLS jersey

the reality for haber is that, for the most part except for the glasgow teams, he will play in stadiums that have less attendance than the Caps do-- i dont see going to the SPL as a good step for his career-- if he ever made it to rangers or celtic, then that would be great-- but that will not happen

 

I'm not trying to run you off at all. You posted something that was hopelessly incomplete and selective. I called you on it. I don't agree with your response, but at least now you've made fuller case.

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To finish the thought, Haber didn't send himself to Scotland, West Brom did. He signed for a Championship club now in the Premiership. But you and others make an argument that basically says he shouldn't have taken the risk, he shouldn't have pushed himself, he should have realized he wasn't any good and stayed here.

At St. Johnstone, he's in a squad that also has Sam Parkin, who has been a very efficient lower-league target guy in England. Unless they decide to use both of them (which has happened some), Haber battles for a place in the starting XI with an experienced guy with a decent track record. Doesn't that help him get better?

 

obviously haber's contract with west brom allows for him to be loaned out-- but going to the SPL, except for rangers or celtic, is really a demotion-- and if he cant make an impression there, his days are limited with west brom

i still think he should have pushed himself here with the caps and try and improve his skills and stats from 2009-- i just dont think he had developed enough b4 trying euro soccer-- and his stats would suggest that

the soccer world is filled with guys who have size, hustle, aggression, athleticism, passion for the game-- all this haber has

while a player can develop some skill for scoring, usually a player has it or not-- its a natural gift to be in the right place at the right time, and then put the ball in the back of the net at least 30-50% of the time-- haber does not have that ability-- no amount of hustle will overcome that-- its unique for a striker IMO-- and haber does not have this

i still think his best possibilty was with the caps and try and make the squad for MLS-- he may rue his missed opportunity here

the idea that a young NA must try euro soccer hopefully comes to an end some day and he sees the NA game as his best chance for a professional career

 

I don't think Shiek was banned. He just quit.

 

my assumption is that some1 in the top leadership level of the Southsiders contacted the Board moderators and got him banned

at least he stirred controversy-- from time to time , i had to agree with him, in particular with the waterfront stadium (will NEVER happen) and haber's ability to make a career in european soccer (wont happen; he might be a better central defender than a striker!!)

most other othertimes, Sheik was completely off the wall and only was writing to create controversy and 'pull guys chains' (which he did successfully with some)-- i read his comments and then chose to laugh along with him when some reacted-- i was amazed that some kept the dialogue going with him; it was like 'stoking his engine'

getting him banned was ridiculous!! freedom of speech and all that stuff

enough said-- he's gone and the Board carries on

 

I think it was a case where everyone put Iron Shiek on their ignore list for him to take a hint.

 

a guy like the Sheik doesn't quit or run and hide because people are ignoring him-- he thrives in that kind of contest

NO-- people, like some of the southsiders, had him banned by asking/demanding the Board moderators to do it-- if i am wrong then the Board moderators in the soccer sky can tell me otherwise

i just dont believe that the Sheik gave up the ghost because people were ignoring/encouraging others to do so

this is a comment board and people should be able to comment, no matter how ridiculous the person is with his/her comments-- responding to him/heronly fueled his/her thirst to be noticed

now wouldn't that be something if the Sheik were a woman!!

anyways this is a forum about haber and i have said my piece-- and i hope i am wrong and he surpasses my comments and makes a career at a high professional soccer level

 

this week's game vs Dundee-- a 2-1 loss; haber came on at the 63 rd minute- no goals/no assists

 

this weeks home game vs Hibernian

came on at the 76th minute and scored in the 91st-- way to go!!

attendance- 3 819

 

He also got his first senior cap for Canada coming off the bench against Ukraine a couple weeks ago.