Man Utd vs Metrostars

Discussion in 'New York Red Bulls' started by Sponge, Aug 1, 2003.

  1. Metrogo

    Metrogo Member

    Apr 6, 1999
    Washington Hghts NY
    Ahhh, Beau Dure. You know, I have always hoped that he was merely embarassing himself in his inane columns and in his inane contributions to these boards. That really doesn't bother me. But he's embarrassed his country's footballing fans. Now I'm mad.
     
  2. trmbrasil

    trmbrasil Member

    Mar 29, 2003
    Washington, DC
    Club:
    Bahia Salvador
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Since I'm in the Metro's forum let my qualify a few things, post-facto, about my earlier post:

    I agree with Beau's frustration, but not statements about RVN not being able to score against MLS defenses and goalies..Puuhhlease

    And yes, Man U vs. Metro's would have sold out easily and probably sparked some dormant Metro's fans into coming to a few more games.
     
  3. sanariot

    sanariot Member

    Nov 19, 2001
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So you're mad that an American beat the Brits at their own game (sarcasm)? I suppose you'll be really pissed the next time the Americans beat them at that other national pastime of theirs.
     
  4. Dr. Wankler

    Dr. Wankler Member+

    May 2, 2001
    The Electric City
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Ouch. This one really hurts to read. Friedel, yes. Reyna..., well before he was injured, he was a key player on a relegation-bound team. O'Brien... hardly a star, but a solid contributor. Same with Earnie. The others... Ouch. There's that pain in my head again.

    Ruud Van Nistelroy is a star. Nicky Butt is not a star. Most of these guys are, on their best days, Butts at best.
     
  5. sanariot

    sanariot Member

    Nov 19, 2001
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess I gave you too much credit in my previous post.

    *HINT* The article was a JOKE! A bunch of us had a big laugh about it when it was originally published. Nothing to see here...

    Ladies and Gentlemen, the white zone is for the immediate loading and unloading of the sarcasm challenged only...
     
  6. cl_hanley

    cl_hanley New Member

    Sep 3, 2001
    Costa Mesa
    Allow me to cover some of the gaping holes in your argument. Mind you, I'm not arguing that any MLS team is as good as ManU, I'm just focusing on your argument, because you're breaking out this half-baked perspective as if it substantiates your view that MLS is subpar. I actually agree with you for the most part, but your argument overlooks some obvious factors and shortchanges the league and the situation with the Galaxy.


    #1 Galaxy are the second worst team in MLS currently, with a strong gap of points between them and the leaders. They are the lowest scoring team in MLS this season. They have yet to win an away game. If you take any botttom rung team from any league and use them as the standard for that league then the whole league takes a nosedive, regardless of country.

    #2 The Galaxy are a one man show up top. Ruiz is the only certifiable goal scorer on the team. While well known in MLS as a threat, probably completely unknown to foreign teams and unlikely to draw double and triple coverages.

    #3 Ruiz did not play in the Peace Cup. This lends itself to points 4 and 5.

    #4 The Galaxy hit the woodwork twice against Nacional. The score ended 0-0.

    #5 The Galaxy missed blatant sitters and 1 v. 1 opportunities against the 1860 keeper. The score ended 0-0 and definitely should have been a "W".

    #6 The Galaxy, undoubtedly the inferior team in this match, was down 2-1 at halftime to PSV. The next half saw the team sacrifice defense in an effort to get the equalizer and they paid for it. Must win games often see teams taking a beating in the final minutes of a second half.

    #7 PSV was the eventual tournament champion. The Galaxy had some company in the loss to PSV.
     
  7. Metrophenomenal

    Metrophenomenal New Member

    Jan 10, 2003
    Seoul+NJ
    u think big euro teams only play other big euro teams??? go look some teams preseason schedules, they play some teams nobody has ever heard of. many champions league teams have played teams MUCH MUCH MUCH worse than ours.
    they blow them out most of the time and judging by how bad man u beat everybody else on this tour I dont think we'd stand a chance, but this whole argument that mls teams arent worthy of playing against man u is stupid.
     
  8. Metrogo

    Metrogo Member

    Apr 6, 1999
    Washington Hghts NY
    Beau isn't smart enough for sarcasm.
     
  9. Brownswan

    Brownswan New Member

    Jun 30, 1999
    Port St. Lucie, FL
    Actually, if you win, it's called a fluke; if you lose, everyone goes on believing what they already believe: MLS is not good enough. We would gain no credence among the the MLSphobes.

    On the other hand, the press coverage would help the league's image with the average sports fan, and we can use all the good press we can get. Nor would fans of ManU turn away if they played Metro instead of Juve. Maybe the crowd hits 50-60k instead of a sellout, but that's still big news here.
     
  10. Brownswan

    Brownswan New Member

    Jun 30, 1999
    Port St. Lucie, FL
    As pointed out: Celtic loses 0-4, CA 1-3, Juve 1-4.
    I don't think Metro or Chicago or San Jose would do any worse -- and quite possibly they would make a better show of it. There was one sure way to fine out.
     
  11. M

    M Member+

    Feb 18, 2000
    Via Ventisette
    Actually, that's exactly what MLS planed to do this spring. Oakland's (?) opening regular season match was going to be played in Japan until it got cancelled by the Iraq war. No Japanese teams involved.

    Anyway, the criticism of Man Utd is bizarre. They've hardly avoided playing local opposition wherever they've gone on past pre-season tours. So, you need to look at the organizers of the tour and/or MLS themselves if you're looking for the answer.
     
  12. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    Brooklyn
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    In 2000, the Mets payed the opening day series against the Cubs at the Tokyo Dome. Neither team played the Tokyo Giants
     
  13. TerremotoFan

    TerremotoFan New Member

    Apr 23, 2002
    San Jose, Ca
    The rumor that I've heard several times on World Soccer Weekly Radio show (same guys that do the Big Soccer Radio Weekend show) was that ManU was willing to play the Galaxy, but that MLS insisted it be held at the HDTC which only holds 27k-30k and ManU said forget it we don't play for that small of crowd . Anyway as has been already pointed out Elite sides do play lower level sides at times , in the English FA Cup minnows are some times matched against giants. Oh and I see : Real Madrid 4, China Dragon 0 that result just in.
     
  14. CrazyDCFan

    CrazyDCFan Member

    Mar 31, 2002
    Henan, China
    If a team from MLS played any team except for that damn mexican team anywhere on the east coast i would have traveled to see it. I think i speak for a lot of US fans.
     
  15. Beau Dure

    Beau Dure Member+

    May 31, 2000
    Vienna, VA
    To be fair, Football365's Mediawatch earned at least a draw.

    And frankly, the English folks who got in touch with me after that column emerged were quite funny in their responses. The Americans, on the other hand ... well, you can probably guess.
     
  16. Father Ted

    Father Ted BigSoccer Supporter

    Manchester United, Galway United, New York Red Bulls
    Nov 2, 2001
    Connecticut
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    Just to go off on a brief tangent here, but how do you think Kenny Arena would do against Van Nistelrooy?
     
  17. metz

    metz Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    That's a good Idea, a All Star Game nex year against Man-U.
     
  18. psycho killer

    psycho killer New Member

    May 26, 2003
    NJ
    Funny you should mention that. They used to do that on ESPN a few years back with the all the football teams who were playing each other that weekend. They had like Madden 99 or something and let the teams autoplay each other. I think at the end of the season the computer was about 30% accurate. So much for that.
     

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