The real issue is that the English, a Slavic non-European people from Central Asia Where did you come up with that ? English . . . Slavic? Try Germanic and European . BTW, Slavic is also an European group.[/QUOTE] The British isles were invaded by Slavonic peoples just as was much of northern and eastern Europe (Croatia & Serbia). The Anglos, Saxons, Freisians and others did infact come from the regions of northern Germany but they originated further towards the east in Ukraine and Central Asia. The same applies for the Scots and Irish, they too are a Slavic people originating from central Asia from an area known as Scythia. Slavic peoples have the habit of adopting the names of regions they enter into and then use those titles to justify their presence in a continent from which they do not originate from. When it suited them, the slavic anglo-saxons quickly took up the title of Brits or British and named the whole island Britain when in fact they were never Brits to start with. The real Brits are the Gallic French from the Brittany peninsula in France. Another example is the popular, but incorrect, belief that King Richard the Lion Heart was an Anglo or English king when he was infact a Gallic king from the region of Brittany in France. The only original inhabitants of the British isles are the Welsh, which have close links to other Gallic peoples such as the Belgians and the French. Of course not, Slavic people are a people from Central and Northern Asia in a region once known as Scythia. There is a tendency to stretch the borders of Europe in order to include everyone but such falsities should be avoided.
Interesting reading!!! A bit of topic, but interesting. The bottom line is theories.....nobody knows for sure, its all theories. Different historian and archeologists have different views on these topics, talking about them is what makes it interesting. Now the truth of what really happened nobody will ever know for sure.....because there are always 3 sides to every story....Yours, Mine and the Truth.
Thats exactly what it is. All one can do is take in as much information as possible on the subject on hand...and Live Life
Portugallia you're sooooo full of sh.i.t!! Everybody knows that the Canary Islands are what's left of the lost continent of Atlantis. They were first populated 9000 years ago by an highly advanced civilization that became corrupt, greedy and started to cheer for FC Porto. That was when the gods became angry and destroyed the city (apparently the gods were mostly Benfica fans). In any case, Atlantis was destroyed, but the Canary Islands survived, AND THAT is why they were known as Fortunate Islands!
We discovered everything and like always we lost everything... What else is new? Even Colombo was Portuguese and had to say he was Genovese...
Lets face it we only appretiate our people when they are dead or they become important outside Portugal. We as a people tend to forget the great values boooming inside our country. Its time we have a bit more of respect and self awareness for our homegrown talent. Putting up a statue and naming a school after the guy dies is nice, but honoring somebody while they are alive is where is at!!!
I dont know about that....Are we talking about Colombus? The Italian who studied in Portugal's Navigation schools?
We are talking about the famous man that discovered America in 1492, its a theory but well supported with some interesting facts... --» http://www.dightonrock.com/colombo_era_100.htm P.S. You never wondered why some names in the caribian islands sound so Portuguese Cuba--» named in honor of a small Portuguese village in Alentejo, thats another theory saying that Colombo was born in this village --» http://amigosdacuba.no.sapo.pt/paginas/cubaframes.htm
eveybody lays claim to columbus....he was supposedly a jew from genoa, or maybe born in cuba, portugal.. lets not forget we discovered the barbados also and we introduced England to tea. heck we even navigated the st.lawrence seaway and gave newfounland and labrador its name...although giovanni caboto takes claim to that
The only person that was Genovese was the papal translator which translated the discoveries made by our Cristobal de Colon to the papal authorities in Rome, as was the custom of Catholic kingdoms in those days. It was he who translated Critobal's surname (Colon) into the more Italian sounding name "Colombo". A few centuries later some overly enthusiatic Italian historians - or should I say con-artists, couldn't resist the temptation of writing stories that Italians themselves had discovered lands in the new world. The fact is it's perfectly well documented that Cristobal was born in Portugal, from a Portuguese Catholic family, was raised in Portugal, studied in Portugal, spoke and wrote in Portuguese, married into the Portuguese nobility and so on and so forth. The only thing the Italians discovered was how to bull-shit in latin and get away with it. Besides, the new world was not discovered via North America by Cristobal anyhow. It was discovered around 60 years earlier by Cabral and co when he landed in Brazil - something many historians prefer not to talk about since it lays more importance on Lusitanian Brazil and not North America, which was discovered by us anyway.
Nevertheless and as usual, the thieves of the world and their supporters will not hold back misleading others by saying he was an Italian in the case of the Italians, that he was a Jew when it's written by the Zionists, that he was a homosexual when written by the pro gay loby and more recently, wait for this, that he was a crypto-Muslim descended from Mohammed himself.
Portugallia...you got anything to back up these theories? I am not saying they are impossible, because only the people of that era know exactly what happened...but your ideas always seem to be on the radical side.
Interesting to note that both the Atlantic and Pacific Oceans derive their names from us Portuguese. Our ancestors were truly "herois do mar". Lets keep their memory alive. and as Aristotle said: "We have no word for the man who is excessively fearless; perhaps one may call such a man mad or bereft of feeling, who fears nothing, neither earthquakes nor waves, as they say of the Celts"
Cuba could be just as easily a Spanish influence name. The Portuguese and Spanish language after all is about 70 - 75 percent similar.
That's because Portugal was Spain. Portugal was formed from the Condado Portucalense which was given to D.Henriques for fighting the muslim during the crusades. Both languages derive from Latin, but portugal was under spanish domain for many years and both cultures and histories are interconected. The comunists and jews are to blame.
I never heard or read anything to indicate that he was born and raised in portugal to portuguese parents...studying, speaking and reading portuguese and marrying the daughter of the governeor of madeira is well documented...what are your sources for the other alleged facts. Columbus never maid it to the mainland. His discoveries were limited to the carribean. Cortez made it to the mainland around the same time cabral reached brazil
the usual story about columbus is that he was born in genoa, italy went on a boat trip to england when he was a young teenager during the boattrip his boat supposeduly got destoryed by pirates and for safety he swam to the coast and ended up in Portugal then he lived in Portugal for long time and live in Madeira studied with the Portuguese navigations etc even if you accept this theory (the one commonly accepted here in North America) you realise that without Portugal, Columbus would have been a nobody Portugal gave him the oppurtunity to be a navigator and it was where he learned and trained, got married, etc all that but over here in North America ppl instead like to stress how "he is italian discovered it with spanish guys" instead of actually talking about why he became a great explorer.
You're 50% right. Magellan gave the name to the Pacific Ocean in his attempt to circunavigate the planet, but Atlas, the Greek mythological character is the root of the name for Atlantic.
The funny story behind all this, is that Colombo didn´t spoke Italian, he spoke Galaico-Portuguese (what the Portuguese spoke at the time) If he was a poor Italian how could he have connections with the Portuguese nobility? Why he gave typical Portuguese names and saints from Alentejo region to the places he discovered and didn´t called new Genova etc etc Such an Italian (Genovese) he was lol