Liverpool vs Arsenal (EFL Cup Semi) 13 Jan 2022

Discussion in 'Arsenal' started by NorthBank, Jan 13, 2022.

  1. ArsenalMetro

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    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
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    That is some kind of performance. What an effort.
     
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  2. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
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    Mar 29, 2006
    Connecticut
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    p.s. BIG SMILE

    p.p.s. FVCK OFF GRANIT
     
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  3. DutchCane

    DutchCane Member+

    Apr 6, 2004
    New York, New York
    One of THEE best Arsenal performances under Arteta. Unfortunately unless we got the good drugs I'm a bit concerned for the NDL smh. UP THE GOONERS tho.
     
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  4. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
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    United States
    Was expecting to see us concede 2/3 goals by the time I got home. Shocked we didn't. Credit to the boys.
     
  5. Rewinder

    Rewinder Member+

    Jun 24, 2004
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    Great effort today. ******** Xhaka. Get his antivax ass out of here.

    He should have never played for us again after the Palace incident.
     
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  6. Pauncho

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    A scoreless draw, down a man for the last 66 minutes, on the road, against a Big Six opponent. That is at least three-fourths of a win in my book!
     
  7. NorthBank

    NorthBank Member+

    Arsenal; NYRB
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    Connecticut
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    Every single Arsenal player should give their shirt to our fantastic away supporters
     
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  8. TitoTata

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    Jun 26, 2014
    He sacrificed himself to save a goal ..
    You will probably win the second leg now so what’s your problem ?
     
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  9. NorthBank

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    Looks like my sly anti-jinxing technique worked a charm. :D
     
  10. Rewinder

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    Jun 24, 2004
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    He left us with 1 midfielder going into the NLD, which is the biggest game we have left this season. Who cares if Liverpool score 20 minutes into the first leg of a 2 legged tie?
     
  11. wanye_stirrear

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    Sep 19, 2002
    Maryland
    What a guy!
     
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  12. ArsenalMetro

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    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
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    Also implying that Jota was going to control the ball, take a good touch, and score on what would have needed to be a pretty good finish. It wasn't a high-percentage opportunity.

    This wasn't Suarez v. Ghana.
     
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  13. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    I agree, and It wasn’t a typical Xhaka red card where he loses the plot. He was following the flight of the ball all the way and was trying.to hook it back over his head, catching Jota in the attempt. The only thing you can really fault Xhaka for on this is that he isn’t faster.
     
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  14. wanye_stirrear

    wanye_stirrear Member+

    Sep 19, 2002
    Maryland
    He didn't have to make a play on the ball there at all. He would have had a better chance after the attacker had tried to trap it.

    A lunging, half-slide tackle with one’s foot almost waist high was NOT the move.
     
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  15. NorthBank

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    Connecticut
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    Arsenal FC
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    #90 NorthBank, Jan 13, 2022
    Last edited: Jan 13, 2022
    And that he didn't have the awareness of where Jota actually was positioned. And, given that, it was a big risk to take on the edge of the box. His foul was 2 yards away from giving them a PK and 1-0.

    When you get down to the essence, the things that drive us nuts (or me anyway) on his many game-changing fouls is his poor judgment, his boneheadedness.

    Everyone's entitled to a few big mistakes over their career, but for me he's beyond whatever threshold is tolerable. And I don't get the impression he's learning how to stop doing this.

    All that said, I don't think it will affect his standing within the team, and his manager writing his name in permanent ink on our XI.

    Just how long do we persist with him? Beyond this summer??
     
  16. ArsenalMetro

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    Chicago, IL
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    Until there's a better option. Xhaka sucks, but he's also very clearly the second-best central midfielder on the team.
     
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  17. NorthBank

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    Actually, given how inconsistent his partner has been, you could make the argument that he's the best CM on our team. Alas, that doesn't make me want to keep him.
     
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  18. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
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    not to mention, he seems a big part in getting better performances out of partey, odegaard, and tierney. if we get someone else of similar profile but better - danilo? bruno? - maybe we can be move on without it being an overall loss. until then, i can't see it.
     
  19. casoccerdad47

    casoccerdad47 Member+

    Mar 31, 2006
    He wasn’t trying to slide tackle, he was trying to clear the ball, but Jota was trying to chest the ball down at the same time. He had no chance if Jota chests the ball down, he is not quick enough. I am not a Xhaka fan. From the day he arrived I felt he was to slow, but I’m willing to give him the benefit of the doubt on this one. Watching the flight of the ball to try to clear it back over his head, I doubt he knew exactly where Jota was. Sometimes sh*t happens.
     
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  20. Super Llama

    Super Llama Member+

    May 21, 2006
    Seattle
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    Arsenal FC
    I too can sacrifice myself to save a goal, but I’ll do it for half Xhaka’s wages
     
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  21. daedalus

    daedalus Member+

    Apr 24, 2004
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    chambers struggle against speed because he has mertesacker-level agility and turning radius - and per has been retired for 4 years. but, offensively, he's better than cedric, i think.
     
  22. cooper7d7

    cooper7d7 Member

    Feb 7, 2001
    CT
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    Arsenal FC
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    United States
    Would it have made sense for White to go outside and Chambers play RCB?
     
  23. TitoTata

    TitoTata Member+

    Jun 26, 2014
    Exactly.. plus at least he tracked back when the others didn’t .

    On current form Jota scores imho
     
  24. wanye_stirrear

    wanye_stirrear Member+

    Sep 19, 2002
    Maryland
    He was lunging and, in fact, did slide, but obviously, I didn’t mean that it was a ‘slide tackle’ in the typical fashion since the ball was waist high. My point was it was a rash challenge with very little possibility of panning out well. The pass put Xhaka behind the play. The better option would have been to challenge after the touch because it was a hard ball to control especially with Ramsdale so far out of his box. As a matter of fact, I think the probability of that play resulting in a goal is much less than 50/50.

    He tracked Jota for fifteen yards. He knew the ball was being passed to Jota. Making such a blind clearance without taking into account where the defender is pretty silly. That’s a pretty easy way to foul someone.
     
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  25. wanye_stirrear

    wanye_stirrear Member+

    Sep 19, 2002
    Maryland
    It was not a professional foul for which Xhaka was “taking one for the team.”

    It was just a typical reckless challenge by a person who does this sorta thing quite often.
     
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