My coach taught me to never change a winning game. He leaves Europe, plays in MLS, makes the All Stars, gets called up the USMNT, plays in the MLS final and now he should throw that away for some half-assed Euro team? Am I missing something?
About $250-300k p.a in pay. He's on about $195k at the moment. If an upper-table EreDivise (or Jupiler League or Liga Sagres) team comes calling he can easily get $500k p.a. for 3 years. If he gets real DP money, he's probably better off staying in MLS. The Revs are in the Cup final, he's a star at the Revs, he's playing alongside Jones who he can learn a lot from, he's playing alongside Jones so Klinsi is going to be seeing a lot of Nguyen when he watches Jones. Finally, at 28 the ceiling of a move to Europe is not going to be EPL/BL1/La Liga - unless he nails down an MNT place, in which case a big(ish) move to Europe could still materialize in 18 months and staying at the Revs with Jones will help cement that MNT place. It all depends on whether the Revs offer him proper $$.
No. That pretty much sums it up. Nguyen already took his chance in Europe with PSV and Randers in Denmark. The smart move is to push for a hefty pay hike and stay in MLS.
And playing the European market (especially Holland, which is a move he could reasonably make in January) is the best way to pressure the Revs for that pay increase.
Given his age, money and post playing career options should be a major factor. He's in a good situation at NE, so if money isn't materially different, I'd only consider moving if there is a good fit from a playing and personal perspective. I don't think the bit about already taking his chance makes much sense. If you don't make it somewhere by 22/23, you shouldn't try again? He's grown as a person and player and the fact he knows what to expect, he'll be better prepared to succeed and make the right decision.
Pretty much. Remember, he was a bona fide superstar in Vietnam, with wages to match and living in a country with a very low cost of living. I don't remember the guy's name, but some other (white) American with much less ability was reported on these boards to be making $20k per month. Nguyen would have been making at least that, and being Vietnamese he would have had substantial endorsment and sponsorship income on top. When he moved to MLS, he was widely and consistently reported to be doing it for the sole purpose of getting onto the MNT radar, simply because of the huge pay and income cut he was taking. Then again, Nguyen had already made bank, so he could afford to.
If I remember right, Lee's extravagant salary was really only around 120K a year. Keep in mind though to live in Vietnam it costs pennies and basically all that money went to his account--he got to use a free house and cars.
FWIW, the UK is rolling back the investor visa program because the locals - and the locals are idiots, to be sure - are complaining that they are actually paying foreigners to reside in the UK. Which is, technically, a valid complaint. If a foreign investor buys the UK bonds as a necessary condition to receiving the residency rights, he is also entitled to a stated interest rate on those bonds. If one discounts the inflation (and most governments understate theirs by a few points, since it profits them) and the market prices for these bonds over the required holding term, then, indeed, investors make money off these bonds and thus are technically paid to live in the UK. Off memory, there was a Telegraph article stating that about 850 people and their families use this program annually. Most of them are Russian or Chinese.
This. I think it was a bit more, in the 200k range but basically it was all in his pocket as he had free housing, cars and even some local sponsorships.
Which is great and terrific - The UK investor visa specifically prohibits people working as sportsperson. Which is why I was asking which visa you are referring to. https://www.gov.uk/tier-1-investor/overview
So he was there for what, 2-3 years? At 200k a year that is 400k-600k before taxes. Even if he put that all in the bank, and combined it with whatever he saved at PSV and Randers, that isn't going to be enough money to have total career freedom like people here, not you, are stating. He just needs to go wherever he gets paid the most.
^^^Agreed. He def. didn't make the kind of scratch people are trying to make it sound like on here....
He had sponsorship deals in Vietnam too, I remember a picture of him with the Sony gaming system from over there. So we don't know exactly how much he was making in total. I doubt he's making more here.
He's not making more here--that's for sure. But was he making 2-3 million USD yearly? I don't think so....
It does not benefit a government to understate the inflation rate. Exactly the opposite. Look up ("debt deflation"). Especially when that inflation rate is already "too low," as it is in almost all developed economies right now. Where did you get your info that government's routinely understate their inflation rates? What was this thread about, again?
Cryptic tweet That feeling you get when you've made a big decision and realize there's no turning back— Lee Nguyen (@LeeNguyen24) December 12, 2014 http://hereisthecity.com/en-gb/2014/12/04/southampton-eyeing-move-for-mls-star-lee-nguyen/ http://www.mlssoccer.com/es/mlscup/...oeman-y-el-southampton-se-fijan-en-lee-nguyen I realize he'd have to get a work permit, which is unlikely, but who doesn't enjoy a bit of YA speculation?!!?
It could mean he's accepted A DP deal and has accepted that he's in The USA for the remainder of his career. Or it could mean he's about to make a move to another MLS side. Nothing has emerged that makes a Euro move more likely - or in any way likely at all.
The tweet could be non-soccer related. Maybe he bought his girl an engagement ring. Maybe he got a tattoo. Maybe he ordered a pizza and had a tough time deciding on a topping.