Leaving early, 2019/20

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  1. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    It's been oddly quiet on this front.

    I've got thoughts on who should leave early and who might leave early. But I have heard nothing about underclassmen actually turning pro early this winter

    Anyone else?
     
  2. JoeSoccerFan

    JoeSoccerFan Member+

    Aug 11, 2000
    With the MLS combine being replaced with a "new showcase" that is being scheduled between the College cup SF and F (on that Saturday in Cary), GA may not be announced until after College Cup.
     
  3. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    We have movement...

    NC State Jr. MF David Loera has signed a homegrown contract with Orlando City.

     
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  4. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    So I can't tell if they're leaving early, but MLS has invited 16 underclassmen who aren't participating in the College Cup to a "showcase" this weekend along with some seniors.

    The showcase is replacing the MLS Combine.

    The MLS release makes a point of saying this event won't conflict with their NCAA eligibility but it definitely seems to imply there is interest on both the part of MLS and these players to see them leave early.

    https://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2019...augural-adidas-mls-college-showcase-dec-13-15

    For those that don't click on the list, the underclassmen at the showcase are:

    Brown, Javain CB South Florida
    Costa, Gabriel AM SMU
    Egbo, David F Akron
    Hernandez, Nicky DM SMU
    Mabika, Aimé CB Kentucky
    Maher, Jack CB Indiana
    Nielsen, Patrick CB Michigan State
    Pereira, Daniel CM Virginia Tech
    Pérez, Louis AM Central Florida
    Raposo, Ryan W Syracuse
    Reyes, Jacobo M Portland
    Ritaccio, Carlo CB Akron
    Robinson, Robbie F Clemson
    Smith, Kimarni W Clemson
    Stanley, Aedan LB Duke
    Trejo, Daniel W Cal State - Northridge
     
  5. soccersubjectively

    soccersubjectively BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 17, 2012
    Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does an underclassman *have* to be at the combine to go to MLS early?
     
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  6. fknbuflobo

    fknbuflobo Member+

    Arsenal FC
    United States
    Nov 16, 2011
    Akron, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am told that there are only two routes for college underclassmen to directly move to MLS. They are either HG or they are GA.
     
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  7. soccersubjectively

    soccersubjectively BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 17, 2012
    Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So the combine is a way to up someone's rep in order to get a GA contract, I take it?
     
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  8. ThePonchat

    ThePonchat Member+

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    Jan 10, 2013
    I've Been Everywhere Man
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
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    United States
    Most of the time (maybe always?) the GA deals are already known before combine. That has been it in the past. Players with GA deals aren’t always at the combine either.
     
  9. BigRedFootie

    BigRedFootie Member

    Jan 31, 2003
    B-town
    Aidan Morris is leaving IU for the pros. Sad - I really enjoyed watching him. :(

    Jack Maher's brother has signed w/ IU, so he's going to stay (at least another year).
     
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  10. JoeSoccerFan

    JoeSoccerFan Member+

    Aug 11, 2000
    Agree, but I believe that he made the right transition decision. For the matches that I saw, he seemed to be playing at a different level (as a 17yo). I'm glad that he came to IU for a season, got to experience the college experience (for a semester) and can start as a pro at the beginning of the season (rather than trying to fit in during mid-season).

    Cheers to him and good luck to his next steps.
     
  11. Sam Miami

    Sam Miami Member

    Bayern Munich
    Germany
    Sep 11, 2019
    I don't envy these coaches having to replace their best young players every year
     
  12. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    The first (only) GenAd signings have been announced.

    Henry Kessler, Jr. D, Virginia
    Jack Maher, So. D, Indiana
    Ryan Raposo, So. M/F, Syracuse (Canada)
    Robbie Robinson, Jr. F, Clemson
     
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  13. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    It's always a tough call - go after the best talent you can even if they won't matriculate or will leave early as soon as they get the chance.

    OR, go after players who aren't quite as good but are more likely to stay four years.

    Aside from Jordan Morris, Stanford has shown you can win a national title without players leaving early. But most of the other top programs tend to rely heavily on the level of talent that tends not to stay four years.
     
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  14. JoeSoccerFan

    JoeSoccerFan Member+

    Aug 11, 2000
    Here's the link from MLS.

    I wonder if other GAs will be announced?

    I could see UVA's Dike, and Bell be signed.
    Maybe, Clemson's freshman Mayaka, Akron's Egbo, Mabika (KY)
     
  15. BigRedFootie

    BigRedFootie Member

    Jan 31, 2003
    B-town
    Yup - we thought Maher was going to stay, but too many disincentives.
     
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  16. Sam Miami

    Sam Miami Member

    Bayern Munich
    Germany
    Sep 11, 2019
    Anyone have the data analytics or subjective opinion on are the traditional powers losing ground to mid-majors because they have a high percentage of the early departures?

    The value of a Stanford degree probably keeps their kids in school.
     
  17. stphnsn

    stphnsn Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
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  18. JoeSoccerFan

    JoeSoccerFan Member+

    Aug 11, 2000
    Sam - coaches that go for that elite player knows the player probably isn't going to stay for all 4 years. I've talked with many coaches and between HG and GA, the future is now for these teams. It's part of the coach's motivation technique - "want to make the money, work harder, do this or that".
     
  19. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    I have seen multiple posts on twitter that UVa is losing both Joe Bell and Daryl Dike, with Bell going to Norway and Dike signing a GA deal and likely going to Miami.
     
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  20. fknbuflobo

    fknbuflobo Member+

    Arsenal FC
    United States
    Nov 16, 2011
    Akron, Ohio
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I would really love to see Joe Bell in MLS, instead of Eridivisie (or wherever).
     
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  21. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    It's not very big, but we finally have enough players leaving early to have a list!

    Joe Bell, Jr. M, Virginia (New Zealand) - Viking (Norway)
    Daryl Dike, So. F, Virginia - Generation Adidas
    Henry Kessler, Jr. D, Virginia - Generation Adidas
    David Loera, Jr. M, NC State - Orlando City (Homegrown)
    Jack Maher, So. D, Indiana - Generation Adidas
    Aidan Morris, Fr. M, Indiana - Columbus Crew (Homegrown)
    Ryan Raposo, So. M/F, Syracuse (Canada) - Generation Adidas
    Robbie Robinson, Jr. F, Clemson - Generation Adidas
     
  22. Newports

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    Jan 19, 2012
  23. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
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  24. BigRedFootie

    BigRedFootie Member

    Jan 31, 2003
    B-town
    Dike was signed.
     

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