La Gran Final de la Copa America Centenario Argentina Vs Chile June 26th [R]

Discussion in 'Copa América Centenario 2016' started by sidspaceman, Jun 23, 2016.

  1. fafaco

    fafaco Member+

    Jun 16, 2015
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    It seems that in Finals, the pressure always gets to Argentina.. if you noticed, during the Group stage, Argentina defeated Chile With Out Messi.. but in the final they struggled to beat Chile With Messi on the field. What this tells me, is that it's all Mental.. meaning Argentina can't think straight, during Finals.
     
  2. Loco

    Loco Member

    May 1, 2005
    Congrats to Chile on winning. I felt that the game was crap while watching it, and it was crap until the end. I hope this ref never gets to officiate an international game again.

    Again, congrats to the Chilean players
     
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  3. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    By saying that Argentina struggles in the finals, you are diminishing Chile performance. Argentina lacked creativity because Chile defense was great.
    Is not that Argentina was bad, they were great and they created chances, it was that Chile had guevos in the final and they have a good team. Also you need to consider that when Rojo got the red card, Mascherano had to play in the defensive line, no more in the mid.
     
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  4. fafaco

    fafaco Member+

    Jun 16, 2015
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Yes this is true.. Chile played Great! I'm not denying that.. but you also can't deny that Argentina always Chokes on finals.. seriously, just look at that EASY CHANCE that Higuain missed. The pressure got to them..
     
  5. Emigomez

    Emigomez Red Card

    Dec 15, 2012
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    What counts is the final . A few weeks before the Copa America Mexico beat chile in a friendly and in last Copa America with our b team beat chile in their home I believe . then they come out and 7-0 us out of nowhere. Asi es el fútbol .Maybe their coach Pizi is a genius and in the pre importante matches made opponents think his tema was weaker than it was .


    Chile destroyed the dreams of Mexico Colombia and nos they are making Messi and Argentina retire . Grande Chile que Bueno el futbol
     
  6. el escorpion

    el escorpion Member+

    Jul 10, 2007
    Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    uy, disculpamepero un delantero tiene el rol del gol y lo de Higuaín es ridículo, en tres finales ha fallado cosas increíbles y más para un delantero de su categoría, a ver el gol que le hizo a Venezuela fue más complejo y todo parece indicar que es la presión la que juega en su contra.
     
  7. JamieFox

    JamieFox Member

    Dec 9, 2013
    Club:
    Wolverhampton Wanderers
  8. fafaco

    fafaco Member+

    Jun 16, 2015
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Yes I agree, what counts is the final.. but Mexico's B team never beat Chile.. they tied 3-3 .. apparently Mexico B was stronger than Mexico A team
     
  9. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I dont know man, they lost last final against a incredible good German team, and last Copa America against Chile but it was in Chile... now this Chile team is more mature...

    I dont see Argentina as having a bad final, I just see a reaaaly good Chilean team, who is mature not scared of anyone and prepared for next world cup.

    Also Argentina is been lacking a quality mid since Veron retired and Mascherano was playing as a defender, while Chile have aggurably the best CM of the world.

    Alexis also played the game of his life, everytime outruned Argentina defense, he was Incredible.
    Like I said, Argentina wasnt bad, Chile was really really good.

    South America is not just Brazil Argentina and Uriguay anymore :thumbsup:
     
  10. Emigomez

    Emigomez Red Card

    Dec 15, 2012
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    This Chile squad/generation is definitely history in the making Chile has never had a team this successful
     
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  11. SiempreCrema

    SiempreCrema Moderator
    Staff Member

    Deportivo Independiente Miraflores
    Peru
    Feb 4, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    This.

    I'd even go as far as saying its one of the best South American teams of all time outside the big 3, if not the best.
     
  12. sidspaceman

    sidspaceman Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 20, 2002
    AMÉRICA DE CALI
    Club:
    America de Cali
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia

    http://www.ole.com.ar

    http://m.tycsports.com
     
  13. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Of all time?
    what you mean?
     
  14. JamieFox

    JamieFox Member

    Dec 9, 2013
    Club:
    Wolverhampton Wanderers
    Argentina was slightly below par, but just due to nerves. They didn't look a worse side than other matches. Just the quality of the opponent was different.

    Chile themselves did not play at their best either..Sanchez injury, Medel mistake, some nerves etc.

    I think most Argentina fans know that if they play at their best they can beat Chile. I can say that because I am a neutral here so it's not sour grapes.

    Argentina has slightly more talent, but Chile has been slightly better mentally and in team work, and maybe in luck.

    The fact of the matter is that in the last 4 competitive meetings, two played in Chile, and two on neutral grounds, Argentina have won two, and two have been draws. That is pretty clear. If you exclude penalty shoot outs, Argentina are the best side in South America.

    Just have lacked a little luck and/or a little bottle.
     
  15. SiempreCrema

    SiempreCrema Moderator
    Staff Member

    Deportivo Independiente Miraflores
    Peru
    Feb 4, 2015
    Club:
    Universitario de Deportes
    Nat'l Team:
    Peru
    Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay have all had teams better than this Chilean side, but outside of those 3, no one's been able to win back to back Copa America's. They've achieved so much, all they need to do now to complete the generation is to go far in a World Cup.
     
  16. Emigomez

    Emigomez Red Card

    Dec 15, 2012
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Argentina lost 100% because of psychology. I think the fans are toxic.
     
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  17. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Ohhh I see what you mean now, yeah.

    We have to maybe see historic Paraguayan teams but you are on point
     
  18. fafaco

    fafaco Member+

    Jun 16, 2015
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Hey how old are you guys? I was born in 93, and started following futbol in 99.. so I have no knowledge of anything before that.. all I know is that my Ecuador used to really SUCK back in the days.. My father always tells me, that in his day, Ecuador era la Cenicienta de Suramerica!
     
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  19. Emigomez

    Emigomez Red Card

    Dec 15, 2012
    Club:
    CD Chivas de Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Most countries would kill to get a player like Messi playing for them . The way Messi is treated by native countrymen is appalling
     
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  20. faiyez

    faiyez Member

    Feb 16, 2010
    Costa Rica
    Club:
    LD Alajuelense
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    No, they are a minority at this point. Vocal, yes, but a minority.
     
  21. Pipiolo

    Pipiolo Member+

    Jul 19, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Argentina
    To me something that foreshadowed the Argentine tragedy was how Chile played with one man down for about 20 minutes yet never lost control. They stepped back a bit but their game was not drastically changed and Argentina failed to capitalize in those crucial minutes. And Rojo thinks he can be a hot head like he has earned that right, complete donkey who needs to be jettisoned from the NT.
     
  22. Loco

    Loco Member

    May 1, 2005
    The irony of you critiquing Higuain for chocking on this game while your avatar is of Baggio is not escaping me. . . ;)
     
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  23. elviejomen

    elviejomen Member+

    Aug 3, 2007
    Hasbrouck Heights NJ
    Club:
    Junior Barranquilla
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    :ROFLMAO: auch
     
  24. fafaco

    fafaco Member+

    Jun 16, 2015
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    You must have been really mad at Higuian.. that's three vital misses in a row.. 2014, 2015, and now 2016
     
  25. condor11

    condor11 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 2, 2002
    New Zealand
    can someone remind me please

    I recall the miss vs Germany...the miss vs Chile in 2016

    but did he also miss a 1 v1 in 2015? or was it his pk?
     

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