"Kroos'ed to la decimoquinta"- The Official Welcome Toni Kroos Thread

Discussion in 'Real Madrid' started by Lyra, Jul 17, 2014.

  1. petros93

    petros93 Member

    Real Madrid
    Greece
    May 27, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    Greece
    Kroos is saying that the referee on this match was bad, that doesn't confirm your conspiracy theories that everyone is against us and trying for us not to win the league.
     
  2. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    Lol you think this is his first tirade on the pitch or first show of disdain for the officiating?

    The irony that the team and manager are conspiracy theorist according to how you measure is hilarious to me. I'm equally sure they don't care what me (or you) think about how they feel about how they are being treated
     
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  3. petros93

    petros93 Member

    Real Madrid
    Greece
    May 27, 2017
    Nat'l Team:
    Greece
    Uuhm sorry what? What I'm saying is super simple. Kroos is complaining about the referee on this match. I replied to the comments in here that take that as a confirmation that there is a system against us in Spain. Which is a ridiculous claim tbh.
     
  4. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    I believe what I said was equally as simple; this isn't his first time and the manager and other players have also joined in the "feeling" at different points as well.

    So they (including Kroos) are ridiculous... even though they are the ones who feel this most and have shown their frustration on the pitch and after.

    Lol.
     
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  5. Shay Z

    Shay Z Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 3, 2007
    It is telling when you see super cool people like Carlo and Toni get frustrated to THIS extent. This man Carlo he doesn't even move when we score CL final winners, i think it takes a lot for him to reach boiling point and this is the only season i remember when i've seen him really lose it on the sidelines at least on 3 occasions (of the top of my head).

    Personally, i was quite shocked when i saw Toni slap the ground in frustration like that. Genuinely surprised and concerned and the fact that he's spoken in detail about it on his podcast days later shows it wasn't just a momentary episode of anger or frusration.
     
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  6. Forcamadrid2

    Forcamadrid2 Member

    Real Madrid
    Brazil
    Dec 13, 2017
    I have said it before, 10 bad small calls are much worse than 1 big blunder. The continuous wrong calls kill the game flow and frustrate players more than one big blunder.
     
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  7. YOUNGSTARS87

    YOUNGSTARS87 Yellow C@rd Bandit

    Dec 21, 2005
    It's how to control a match. The frustration builds from the indecisiveness due to uncomfortable feeling.

    Then it becomes even more when a disproportionate number of our goals are annulled compared to our rivals; especially considering we play more offensive, controlling and rely on fouling and aggression less than they do.

    For instance against messi barcelona if a referee is allowing all kinds of fouling, aggression and contact it wouldn't show in the stats after the match. However it would severely hamper their ability to play.

    It's natural for lesser teams to rely on these tactics to even the playing field however it shouldn't be natural for an supposed unbiased official to change how they call a game.
     
  8. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Kroos: "I sat and thought about it, and when it came down to it, the worst case scenario with the national team, would end up making no difference to me."
     
  9. HZinho

    HZinho Member+

    Apr 2, 2013
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    That's a healthy thought, no? My impression of Kroos is that he's someone that genuinely doesn't seem to care about what most people think of him. And from what I understand, he hasn't necessarily been a loved figure in Germany anyway, so I can understand his "whatever happens, it's fine for me". But maybe my impression of his popularity in Germany is not based on solid grounds.
     
  10. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
    Club:
    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    There has been a definite thing in Germany for over a decade now to pin the blame for failure on some kind of moral/mental weakness of the players

    When Germany crashed out of the euros in 2012, ironically due to Löw trying to shoehorn Kroos into the midfield, articles were seriously written claiming Lahm, Mueller, Schweini etc were a generation of loveable losers.

    Then of course Bayern did the treble and germany won the world cup, yet these memes stuck around - especially around Ozil. Then it came to a head in '18 and since then numerous scapegoats have been found Ozil, Boateng, Gundogan, Hummels, Kroos, Neuer even laughably Mueller and now Kimmich and Goretzka .... all somehow lacking the german values of old.

    Kroos should be regarded as one of the greatest german midfielders ever, yet somehow the pundit class claimed he was to blame and the all action Kimmich+Goretzka needed to run the midfield. Same thing with Gundogan recently who has been one of the best midfielders in europe for years now, yet somehow isn't good enough for germany.

    The irony is, just like with Ozil, Germany got much worse when Kroos retired. Especially getting rid of these 2 players, who were supposedly defensive liabilities, didn't improve the defence at all - it got worse!

    So yes, a strangely unloved player, surrounded by a bunch of dumb tropes because he doesn't play how the Munich crowd want. Yet in reality, anyone still good enough to play for Madrid is good enough to play for this poor german side. There's an odd belief that you can somehow have the elite mentality to have the kind of career that Kroos has had, yet lack german winning values.
     
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  11. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Yeah, I took it as a "if we fail, nothing changes for me". He said he played out the games and the tournament in his head. Pretty funny.
     
  12. J-Mezzy

    J-Mezzy Member+

    Real Madrid
    Colombia
    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    Kroos is one of the few authentic figures in sports. Not only is he authentic, but he’s unbiased

    will call out poor reffing against us but also point out when a refs made calls or missed calls that benefitted
     
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  13. Galatico

    Galatico Member+

    Real Madrid
    United States
    Aug 15, 2019
     
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  14. Cris 09

    Cris 09 Trololololo

    Nov 30, 2004
    Westfalenstadion
    Club:
    Borussia Dortmund
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  15. .halamadrid2.

    .halamadrid2. Member+

    Nov 5, 2010
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  16. INST

    INST Member

    Real Madrid
    Aug 15, 2023
    “I taught you everything you know. But I didn't teach you everything I know.”
     
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  17. fierro

    fierro Member+

    Jan 30, 2007
    El Chuco
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Kroos looks like an evangelical from Arkansas blessing his sons with the spirit of the holy Ghost and Eduardo's like I only attended those Thursday group meetings for the free food.
     
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  18. Nacional Tijuana

    Nacional Tijuana St. Louis City

    St. Louis City SC
    May 6, 2003
    San Diego, Calif.
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Food's good. Especially free.
     
  19. Digital

    Digital Member+

    Dec 10, 2012
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  20. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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  21. Galatico

    Galatico Member+

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    United States
    Aug 15, 2019
    Deserved. Happy he's staying onboard!
     
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  22. MiamiNative0722

    MiamiNative0722 Member+

    May 25, 2013
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    Real Madrid
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    United States
    Time to start that Kroos Ballon D’Or PR campaign if Madrid and Germany go all the way ;)
     
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  23. hector_br

    hector_br Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    I don't get too emotional over football, but Toni and Luka's retirement will certainly hurt. Absolute legends. I spent my happiest years as a Madridista watching them. It's not like watching CR go. He was great but a trashy person. Toni and Luka are pure class.
     
  24. INST

    INST Member

    Real Madrid
    Aug 15, 2023
    Yeah that shit is gonna suck. My first (and only) visit to the SB was for the Supercopa game back in 2014 (1-1) against Atletico. Think that was Kroos debut at the SB. Got his name printed on my shirt while my cousin got Cr7.

    My fav player over the last 10 years for us. ******** it’s gonna hurt :cry:
     
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  25. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 26, 2006
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Good thing being in Germany is that you hear and see Kroos everywhere so I will never feel like I miss the guy.

    He has done everything right so far. Incredible career and life management. A model athlete.
     
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