Klinsmann: Fabian Johnson needs to "rethink approach" to team

Discussion in 'USA Men: News & Analysis' started by schrutebuck, Oct 12, 2015.

  1. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    You can also turn the analysis around and say that Fabian needs top players around to be productive in midfield. Since we don't have those top players, to the back he goes.
     
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  2. Fernandont Scorres

    Jun 26, 2011
    USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's not true though. Sure, everything is relative. Players are going to perform better with better players around them and Monchengladbach is a better team than the U.S. National Team. We obviously have different views on Johnson. I think he is one of our best attackers. His technical skill and speed of thought is well above our national team average. If we get an opportunity around goal or for a counter, I think we pose more of a threat if Johnson is in those positions over the likes of Bedoya or Yedlin.
     
  3. napper

    napper Member+

    Jan 14, 2014
    Fullerton
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not if Deuce, Benny, Juan, Cam and Landon are on the field with him.
     
  4. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    My position was always that Fab had to play back if he didn't have a scoring foot which he didn't. He developed a scoring foot while JK was basing his evaluation of Fab on old data.
     
  5. deuteronomy

    deuteronomy Member+

    Angkor Siem Reap FC
    United States
    Aug 12, 2008
    at the pitch
    Club:
    Siem Reap Angkor FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Wait, wasn't it Klinsi who said that "anybody can play left back"?
     
  6. Fernandont Scorres

    Jun 26, 2011
    USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The World Cup was when Klinsmann made his first definitive statement regarding where he sees Johnson's position in the national team. Up to that point it seemed really up in the air whether he was going to be a midfielder or defender heading forward, but by playing him as a fullback in a World Cup Klinsmann said he sees a greater value having him on the backline than he does in the midfield. Alright. At the time he, among others, felt that to be the case. Looking back now was this decision correct? I don't even think Klinsmann believes it was considering he has gone back to playing Johnson in the midfield in our last two World Cup Qualifiers.

    Prior to the World Cup Johnson started 7 games in the midfield where he had 3 assists (5 wins, 2 losses, 14 goals scored). Not jaw dropping stats, but not bad either considering a guy who had a midfield spot ahead of him in Brazil, Bedoya, has 5 assists over 43 games. Johnson is one of the few multi-dimensional players we have. Our offense is less predictable and has a better flow to it when he's a part of it. Even with all this being said, moving him up isn't going to make much of a difference unless our other problems are addressed along with it. Forcing Bradley into a #10 role has been detrimental to the team. Not having a Nguyen or Feilhaber in the squad has left us with very little options when we need to tactically approach a game in a different way and as a result we've been forced to field teams of square pegs in round holes.
     
  7. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Everybody wanted Ozil fired at Arsenal a year ago. Then, Sanchez got injured, Walcott and Campbell were paired with Giroud, and Ozil had targets for his type of game. Now he's looking at a huge extention of his contract. Sometimes it isn't so smart to pick somebody because he is "the best American striker" or pretend that everybody is a 10 and width comes from the fullbacks. It's really about which 4 players we have who can finish each others' sentences, so to speak, in the attacking end.

    If we start with Morris and Nguyen as two scorers with good vision, who do we add? I think adding one of Finlay or Fabian makes sense, but not both. So, maybe Morris, Nguyen, Zardes + Fabian (if we want attack out of left mid) or + Finlay (if we want attack from right forward wing). otoh, because he is flexible, we could start Fab at left back with Finlay at right forward and move Fab up when Finlay comes off. That way we have both in the game and width on both sides. Zardes will be better than Jozy because Zardes has aerial ability.

    In any case, we never know these things until we try them. Even at the Arsenal. :thumbsup:
     
  8. OWN(yewu)ED

    OWN(yewu)ED Member+

    Club: Venezia F.C.
    May 26, 2006
    chico, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Id argue the Fabian Johnson fiasco has been the culminating point in showing blatantly that Klinsmann is no longer fit to coach the team, if he ever was at all. Not only unprofessional what he did, but immature as well. Almost as immature as his son. almost.
     
  9. ChrisSSBB

    ChrisSSBB Member+

    Jun 22, 2005
    DE
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ozil doesn't agree...

    “The biggest change started when I was injured last year and I changed my diet and started to look at the small details in my life,” the 27-year-old said. “For example I started to have physiotherapy on my days off and made sure I had a good sleep. That is crucial over here [in England]. It is the fastest league in the world and we often play twice a week with no winter break."

    http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/dec/22/mesut-ozil-arsenal-secret-success-sleep

    Mesut was pretty well known in the past for having an active social life.
     
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  10. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    LA Galaxy
    United States
    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    The whole team is in better physical shape. The difference is huge. It affects the emotional well being of the player as well which improves performance. Klinsmann tends to ignore psychological effects of his physical training methods which is why he will never be a winner for USA.
    http://goonertalk.com/2014/06/04/ar...-top-fitness-coach-from-german-national-team/
     
  11. orcrist

    orcrist Member+

    Jun 11, 2005
    Bay Area, California, USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  12. GiallorossiYank

    GiallorossiYank Member+

    Jan 20, 2011
    NJ/Roma/Napoli
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    For what?
     
  13. Ghost

    Ghost Member+

    Sep 5, 2001
    I don't think it has much to do with his position. I just think he got "fat and happy." It's too bad. He was among our best players last cycle.
     
  14. kba4life1

    kba4life1 Member+

    Jul 14, 2010
    Irvine, CA
    If we're going to have an ineffective offensive winger, I'd rather have someone that at least brings fire and a bit of speed. Give me Arriola over Fab at this point.
     
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  15. ussoccer97531

    ussoccer97531 Member+

    Oct 12, 2012
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    Johnson is faster than Arriola, but I agree that Johnson should mainly be used as a LB.
     
  16. olephill2

    olephill2 Member+

    Oct 6, 2006
    Club:
    Watford FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm willing to cut Fabian some slack yesterday since he is just coming back from an injury layoff and clearly isn't on form. That said, he also hasn't looked great to me in a USMNT shirt since Bruce Arena took over.
     
  17. Cynical US fan

    United States
    Mar 30, 2017
    Boston
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Arriola has been unimpressive and will contribute little to the USMNT.
    Fabian was a total zero last night. If he deigns (or Arena sees his mistake) to play LB or RB, when needed, perhaps he'd be useful.
     
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