KK:97 Abby Doesn't Love Bob

CRays6 · Nov 5, 2004

And M9, you left MSN on at work and I just talked to someone I don't know.

*thanks the lord I didn't call you a whore*

CRays6 · Nov 5, 2004

UWHusky said:

I ********ing hate prednisone.
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What are you taking it for?

Muscle pain?

UWHusky · Nov 5, 2004

CRays6 said:

What are you taking it for?
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Faulty immune system. It's trying to destroy my liver.

It was under control. The doc thinks I picked up some viral bug and it caused my immune system to trip out again.

When I had said last week that I felt like I was having an appendicitis, I wasn't. It was my liver.

CRays6 · Nov 5, 2004

If you say "later" at the end of a conversation, you don't have to say "bye"

They're the same thing.

pimper · Nov 5, 2004

*is home but has to go to the bank*

I shouldn't procrastinate. Eeesh.

In other news, today at work this new med. aid, Heather, saw my new Tegan and Sara sweatshirt and was like, "did you go to the concert last night?" and I was like yeah, and she said she was there too.

My work is a very gay-friendly place. I know of at least 5 homos there.

She said she didn't know any T and S so I condemned her and told her she needed to buy or DL their stuff or I would be forced into making her a CD. She told me I needed to listen to Melissa Ferrick because she's really good too.

[/story that means nothing because you guys won't care]

Anyway, off to the bank.

pimper · Nov 5, 2004

CRays6 said:

If you say "later" at the end of a conversation, you don't have to say "bye"

They're the same thing.
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NO. Don't say, "bye". It's bad.

CRays6 · Nov 5, 2004

Well, I'm glad you're alive.

You kind of scared me, Aud.

Anyway, I'm making crab garlic potato chip dip...and it's good.

Anybody want some?

CRays6 · Nov 5, 2004

pimper said:

NO. Don't say, "bye". It's bad.
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The point being....I just got off the phone and I said "later" and they said later, bye.

Charge! · Nov 5, 2004

rbatc said:

Yeah, that too was pretty much what I thought when I read that...but whattya expect from the state that spawned Heather Mitts?
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:|

Another's take on this week:

by Eleanor Clift, Newsweek
Updated: 1:18 p.m. ET Nov. 5, 2004

Nov. 5 - Ralph Nader was right. The Democrats didn’t need his help to lose. Nader’s share of the vote was miniscule. He thought, as many people did, that John Kerry would win. Nader held his final rally at a rundown library in the District of Columbia to draw attention to the misplaced priorities of a city focused on a new stadium while neglecting the needs of its citizens. “Welcome to John Kerry’s America,” he concluded, satisfied that even if few people were listening, he had spoken out and put pressure on Kerry to do better by America’s urban communities.

Nader offers a plausible if self-serving analysis for what went wrong for Kerry and the Democrats. He blames the “Anybody but Bush” mindset that led Democrats to set aside their issue differences with Kerry and give him a free ride. “Leave Kerry alone—make no demands on him,” that was the mantra, says Nader. The party’s various factions—labor, liberals, women, environmentalists—took a holiday. “They allowed Kerry to adopt ambiguous wishy-washy positions and they deprived him of the key to victory, which is bright lines,” says Nader.

On college campuses, Nader would ask at the end of each rally if anybody had any announcements they wanted to make. Inevitably there was an antiwar rally coming up on Nov. 9 or Nov. 15. “Why not before Nov. 2?” he would ask. Because nobody wanted to cause trouble for Kerry.

A month ago, with his own campaign sinking and desperate to be heard, Nader dispatched 10 of his people with silver platters and white waiter coats to Kerry headquarters. They served up 10 ways to beat Bush. This was not utopian stuff, says Nader. Raising the minimum wage and attacking corporate subsidies are positions that can get a majority behind them; they are long overdue and practical. (The full list is at VoteNader.org.)

Amidst the rubble of what was the Democratic Party, Nader doesn’t sound like a voice in the wilderness. He’s saying what a lot of Democrats are coming to grips with, that they will be a permanent minority party for the next 20 years if they don’t come up with some compelling ideas. It’s insufficient to say how bad the Republicans are. The Kerry campaign didn’t want to rattle the electorate. They thought Bush would fall of his own weight.

Kerry’s advisers told themselves that with war, terrorism and an uncertain economy dominating the news, the cultural issues would fade. But when the exit polls were analyzed, 78 percent of those who voted for Bush cited moral values as a top concern. Democrats knew for months that amendments to ban gay marriage would be on state ballots, yet they did nothing to create a counterweight. David Bositis at the Joint Center for Political and Economic Studies, a Washington think tank, observed that the U.S. Supreme Court gave George W. Bush the presidency in 2000, while the Massachusetts Supreme Court handed it to him in this election.

The court’s May ruling in favor of gay marriage put the issue in play, and Bush’s support for a constitutional ban allowed him to draw a bright line between himself and Kerry. It was the clearest difference voters could see. On the war, Kerry supported it; on the economy, Kerry offered words, few of them memorable. “No wonder enough of the voters go for the moral issues,” says Nader. “What else do they have? When you take away the economic issue, then you allow the presidency to be personalized. If Bush happens to be more likeable—don't ask me why—he becomes the transmitter of the moral issues. They garnish it with gay marriage and abortion and occlude all the secular immorality.”

President Clinton, who signed the Defense of Marriage Act when he was in the White House, advised Kerry in a phone call early in the campaign to find a way to support the state bans. Kerry never considered abandoning his principles to that extent, but he also didn’t take seriously enough the threat. Expanding the definition of “values” beyond opposition to gay marriage and abortion is the challenge for Democrats. Nader points to the fact that initiatives calling for an increase in the minimum wage won in Florida and Nevada. What if the Democrats had gotten behind those initiatives with the same fervor Republicans backed same-sex marriage bans? Paying people a decent wage can be framed as a moral issue.

Many religious people are upset that moral values are defined so narrowly around reproductive rights and sexual identity when the Bible pays far more attention to issues of poverty. A Blue State Catholic friend says the biggest immorality is that Bush took the country to war on a lie that is costing thousands of lives—American and Iraqi. He half jokes that he will retire in a few years, buy a gas station and sell $80 a barrel oil. Customers who fill up their tank will get a free Bible. “Bush’s presidency is like a church revival,” he says. Maybe so, but if the Democrats want to win elections, they’ll have to figure out a way to fill up the pews.
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DeigoRedD · Nov 5, 2004

That pic makes me happy. Because Mia actually looks like she's enjoying the moment. I remember back in the day seeing pics of her getting swamped like that and looking terrified.

*wipes tear* Our reluctant hero is growing up and leaving int'l competition ya'll...

M9fanatic · Nov 5, 2004

CRays6 said:

And M9, you left MSN on at work and I just talked to someone I don't know.

*thanks the lord I didn't call you a whore*
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What did they say?

more importantly......

M9fanatic · Nov 5, 2004

DeigoRedD said:

That pic makes me happy. Because Mia actually looks like she's enjoying the moment. I remember back in the day seeing pics of her getting swamped like that and looking terrified.

*wipes tear* Our reluctant hero is growing up and leaving int'l competition ya'll...
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OMG how horrible for those kids! what is she doing?

they'll be scared for life!

was that sarcastic enough?

M9fanatic · Nov 5, 2004

M9fanatic said:

What did they say?

more importantly......
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i just signed in at home... so hopefully it goes off at work

CRays6 · Nov 5, 2004

I just asked what was up. And they asked who I was looking for. Then they figured it out that I was looking for you and said that you went home.

pimper · Nov 5, 2004

CRays6 said:

Well, I'm glad you're alive.

You kind of scared me, Aud.

Anyway, I'm making crab garlic potato chip dip...and it's good.

Anybody want some?
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Sorry. :|

*looks at shoes*

I do.

*is still looking at shoes*

Charge! said:

:|

Another's take on this week:
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*quotes myself from earlier today*

******** religion.

I hope Satan eats all you bible thumpers.

CRays6 · Nov 5, 2004

Stop looking at your shoes......

I'm glad you're ok.

CRays6 · Nov 5, 2004

Hey bitches.......almost time for a new KK.....

*remembers to finish making the dip*

DUH!

CRays6 · Nov 5, 2004

Oh GOOOOOOODDD! It's good.

Anyone else?

CRays6 · Nov 5, 2004

That's a worker cleaning public toilets in Beijing.

Where exactly are the toilets?

"I don't know why we can't control epidemics"

CRays6 · Nov 5, 2004

Now we must make fun of Florida......

Fla. First-Grader Brings Crack to Class

ORLANDO, Fla.

A 6-year-old girl brought more than $1,000 worth of crack to school, and her mother claimed the child must have gotten it while trick-or-treating.

The first-grader was suspended from Tangelo Park Elementary. Her mother is under investigation.

School officials sent a letter home to parents Thursday, explaining how an anti-drug campaign led another student to recognize the more than a dozen pieces of crack.
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CRays6 · Nov 5, 2004

Tina Fey is gonna be on Conan on Tuesday night.

CRays6 · Nov 5, 2004

CRays6 Viewing Who's Online

CRays6 · Nov 5, 2004

*looks around*

I'm not starting two KKs in a row.

CRays6 · Nov 5, 2004

*leaves*

Ha Ha next post, start a new KK.

Sorry! The administrator has specified that users can only post one message every 30 seconds.

Charge! · Nov 5, 2004

*thinks about getting a combo DVD-recorder/VHS player*

*is stumped on what exactly to look for*