Kim Young Kwang!!

K_19 · Jul 9, 2005

toohyper said:

Sky, Kim Yong-Dae is not that good...Average keeper, yes, but good? Eehh.
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I think you're underestimating him a little bit. Back in the days of 2000 olympics era, he was one of our best players, and he was a sure pick to succeed Kim BJ and Lee WJ in our NT. He is quite talented AND he also has the perfect physical features for a keeper.

He's just had trouble with his conditioning and confidence. That's all... he's doing terrific for Busan I'cons from what I've heard.

PersianSaam14 · Jul 9, 2005

Kim young kwang is super, I think bonfrere should start usin him in sum friendlies b4 the world cup. He convinced me as a keeper in the 2 games against iran u23.

GuruSky · Jul 9, 2005

toohyper said:

Sky, Kim Yong-Dae is not that good...Average keeper, yes, but good? Eehh.
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pretty much what K_19 said.

he's good, but not great.

but if I were to pick top 5 goalies in Korea right now, he would definitely be one of them. he was awesome during the 2000 Olympic team era. like Hiddink said on his biography, the guy had problems with conditioning and taking care of his own body.

but even the master admitted that he is a good goalie. he said that he wished he would've taken him to the World Cup, but Choi Eun-sung was such a hardworker so he decided to take him instead of Kim Yong-dae who couldn't take care of himself.

sac517 · Jul 10, 2005

SkYHiGH35 said:

pretty much what K_19 said.

he's good, but not great.

but if I were to pick top 5 goalies in Korea right now, he would definitely be one of them. he was awesome during the 2000 Olympic team era. like Hiddink said on his biography, the guy had problems with conditioning and taking care of his own body.

but even the master admitted that he is a good goalie. he said that he wished he would've taken him to the World Cup, but Choi Eun-sung was such a hardworker so he decided to take him instead of Kim Yong-dae who couldn't take care of himself.
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Kim Young-dae sounds like a 15 year old drug addict

sac517 · Jul 10, 2005

K_19 said:

That's right. Sorry, didn't mean to directly compare their heights... they're both considered short for a keeper. I think typical keepers are around 187-200 cm range.

Thing about Lee WJ is, even though he is very short for a keeper, he always seems to have good judgement on air balls. He knows exactly when to come out, punch the ball or hold on to the ball, and his performance in WC2002 is a perfect example of this. Every single decision he made on aerial balls was a good one.

Kim YK, meanwhile, is very hesitant on aerial balls. I've seen him not come out at all on balls he should have punched out or grabbed, or lose his positioning. But this is something he can improve on as the years go by, with experience

About Cha KS, now this guy has all the tools to become a great goalkeeper. I think he's already around 190cm, and his reflexes and athleticism is amazing. However, his decision making skills are HORRIBLE, as we all saw in the WYC. He seems boneheaded sometimes. Again though, thankfully, these things you can teach to a degree while you can't teach physical prowess and talent I hope Cha will improve in years to come.
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they say Cha KS is 195 cm..wow...6'6"

taegukgi2004 · Jul 10, 2005

PersianSaam14 said:

Kim young kwang is super, I think bonfrere should start usin him in sum friendlies b4 the world cup. He convinced me as a keeper in the 2 games against iran u23.
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great idea...i also think he is a good but not great keeper...Perhaps, let the noobie get some experience to see how he performs..... I don't think many of us knew he woon jae lee before the world cup and certaintly i didn't....

seolseol · Jul 10, 2005

Let him play in that upcoming tournament with N.Korea, Japan and China.

forzakr · Jul 10, 2005

taegukgi2004 said:

great idea...i also think he is a good but not great keeper...Perhaps, let the noobie get some experience to see how he performs..... I don't think many of us knew he woon jae lee before the world cup and certaintly i didn't....
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Well actually Lee Woon-jae first earned his spotlight in WC 94, when he subbed Choi Young-il in the last match versus Germany.

He was sick for a while and then had to take the back up position to Kim Byung-ji for a couple of years before blossoming in WC 2002, so it wouldn't accruate to say that he was unknown

Holyjoe · Jul 10, 2005

Kim had a couple of shaky moments yesterday against Suwon, though there was pretty much nothing he could have done to stop either of the goals - Ahn Hyo-yun's run was unstoppable and the finish was a cracker, and Sandro's header came from almost point-blank range again giving him very little chance.

cha doo ri · Jul 10, 2005

i say lee woon jae starter for at least after 2006 wc.....and plus there is barely any chance lee will get dropped for kim anyway cuz boner made lee captain of the team...