Juventus 23/24 Serie A Season Thread for September [R]

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  1. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Like seriously though. Can't even get up for 1 match a week?

    I hope the Press massacres them this week.
     
  2. Daei_10

    Daei_10 Member+

    Aug 22, 2007
    LA, California
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Loca is our defender because Gatti Bremer Danilo all push up. He stays back and does a lot of dirty work. He also makes nice passes, he is not the problem in this team. Its lack of planning, tactics, preparation and mentally Allegri doesn’t know how to approach games. Until this dinosaur is here this is what we will get. Few good games followed by few disasters. Never consistent
     
  3. Daei_10

    Daei_10 Member+

    Aug 22, 2007
    LA, California
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bottom line: This team plays Chaotic, no rhyme or reason. Its on the coach to figure these things out. Some basics are missing. There are 5 seconds left to the game and Both Tek and Gatti refuse to send a long ball to the other side so we can try to score. What are we doing passing it around in our own half when there is No time?

    We need to wake up and get a proper coach. This is supposed to be high level football, you gotta be able to make passes and plays and try different things. This random running passing sending long balls hoping either Chiesa or Vlahovic to perfectly trap it and dribble 3 players to score…isnt a game plan.
     
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  4. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
  5. 'Uaglio

    'Uaglio Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    NYC
    How did Szczesny get a 4.5? He deserves a 2. He gifted three goals. The last one was a stupid pass across the box and then he doesn't even run back to cover his goal. Gatti made a mess of it but Szczesny started it He gave Pinamonti a nice gift as well.

    Why is Fagioli not starting when he has the best feet out there and as soon as he comes on good things happen? Bizarre.

    This formation sucks by the way. Danilo, Bremer, and Gatti are not covering the space they need because none of them are blazers and the wings aren't coming back enough to help (and neither are the defensive midfielders).

    I thought Miretti was poor but he's young. What's Rabiot's excuse? Shameful out there with those heavy touches as usual.

    Thank God Chiesa is back to 100%. He's awesome but it's not enough.
     
  6. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    .calciomercato gave him and Gatti a 4…


    Szczesny 4:
    quell'errore a inizio partita condiziona inevitabilmente il giudizio, su Laurienté arriva una papera non da lui che pure ha il merito di tornare subito sintonizzato sulle frequenze giuste. Incolpevole invece sul tiro di Berardi, poteva fare decisamente di più quando il Sassuolo cala il tris.

    Gatti 4: Laurienté dalla sua parte è un problema senza soluzione, l'autogol finale è inspiegabile.
     
  7. IcEWoLF

    IcEWoLF Member+

    Juventus
    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    God, this team one week awesome the next absolute trash.
     
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  8. 'Uaglio

    'Uaglio Member+

    Jun 8, 2004
    NYC
    Bottom line is that they didn't fix the weaknesses of the club. Too many holes still and the formation is wrong with the kind of talent there is.
     
  9. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Watched Allegri being interviewed where he said that the players didn't transmit the right attitude in the days leading up to the match.

    Have no reason to explain just what their problem is. Heads got inflated after the Lazio match perhaps.

    Except Inter, all other challengers showing weak spots.
     
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  10. Daei_10

    Daei_10 Member+

    Aug 22, 2007
    LA, California
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Allegri doesn’t know how to set the mentality and the tone. He used to prior 2017 but he’s lost that touch.

    Each game needs its own plan and preparation. You gotta analyze who you’re playing and anticipate how they might play and adjust accordingly. Seems like he goes into these games not thinking of everything. Except those few games we play good you can tell he prepared.
     
  11. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    #161 AGomes, Sep 24, 2023
    Last edited: Sep 24, 2023
    This was not the match to blame Allegri (i know your POV though).

    Tek set the tone with those 2 Lauriente shots. Gatti's OG was just the cherry on top of the sundae.
     
  12. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    The Lazio match was so perfect that for once Allegri put out the same Lineup. A shocker. Then they go out and do that. Shameful 90 Minutes except Chiesa.
     
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  13. Daei_10

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    Aug 22, 2007
    LA, California
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yes the players messed up but overall the game plan is lacking. There is a soulless tone to it. He relies on a magic from 1 or 2 players to get a result then just wants to aimlessly pass around rest of the game.

    there have been countless games we lose or concede because of a dumb passing or miscommunication in the back. Even for a team that plays so much build from the back, we dont even have good ball control or confidence. Looks like we struggle a lot of times getting out of our own half.

    i wish there was more passing between our mids. Rabiot Loca Fagioli etc need to pass around to each other more. Seems like every pass our players get they feel like they have to move it side ways or to the wings to go forward. Some more build up give and go between mids going down the middle is needed.
     
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  14. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    Italy
    I'm not giving Federico Gatti the benefit of the doubt by any means but what was Juventus GK Wojciech Szczesny doing when he delived the ball to him in the middle of the defense with no one in the goal?

    You never do that as a defender or GK!


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    Watch: The tremendously bizarre own goal by Juventus' Gatti
    Juventus' 4-2 loss with Americans Weston McKennie and Tim Weah featured two own goals. McKennie, who started and was replaced by his compatriot Weah in the 60th minute, pressured Matías Viña when the Sassuolo defender struck into his own goal to make it 1-1 after a blunder by Juventus goalkeeper Wojciech Szczesny gifted Sassuolo the lead.
    But the game's most memorable error came when Federico Gatti received a pass from Szczesny and struck the ball into the goal Szczesny abandoned to initiate the restart in stoppage time.




    CBS Sports Golazo ⚽️ on X: "Juventus hit them with the no look own goal.
     
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  15. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It is 100% the match to blame Allegri, he's the manager and he was unable to adjust the game. He kept Rabiot on the entire game when he was trash. He took off one of the best players of the game, McKennie, when he could have moved McKennie to his natural position in the middle to replace Rabiot and then put Weah on the wing. He takes off Kostic when you have the 3 guys in the middle performing like absolute trash, Locatelli, Rabiot and Miretti. At least he took Miretti off, but left the other two on.

    Rabiot has played every minute of every game this season, and he's been pretty mediocre all season.

    He takes off Vlahovic for Kean, Kean is one of the worst players on this team yet he keeps getting chances. He kept the back 3 when everyone could see how easily Sassuolo was able to get behind them. Switch to a back 4.

    Yet the WORST thing about Allegri is that he takes ZERO responsibility. He blames the players attitudes, says they're playing like butterflies, this crap or that crap. He NEVER says, I got it wrong, this is on me.

    He's a TERRIBLE manager and Juve will go nowhere with him at the helm. Ultimately all this crap that Juve has endured the past few season lies on Agnelli's shoulders. He ruined this team for his short term branding goals. And now his cousin doesn't care much either, it's just another business for him. Sell the club to someone that wants to see them return to the glory days.
     
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  16. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
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    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  17. gumbacicc

    gumbacicc Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    USA
    I hope that we can move on from guys like Allegri, Szczesny and Alex Sandro who are synonymous with the downfall of the club since that hammering that we took in the final against Real. It's amazing that we still haven't parted ways from these guys.

    As a Juve and Italy supporter, Berardi is the most frustrating player ever. He is dog shit for the national team yet finds a way to be very relevant for Sassuolo against us. It's maddening.
     
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  18. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Dante,

    Yeah was thinking about the Rabiot love-in. Stems from 2 reasons IMO:

    1) He was our best player last season.

    2) In the off-season when he was out of contract, if you recall those rumors to ManUtd came up. Allegri made it clear to Rabiot that he was important for the team, blah, blah, etc. Not taking him out of the match yesterday was probably Allegri's way of keeping his word. It's not like the team has European commitments to juggle.

    RE: Tek

    Yeah, he done f'ed up but I'm not so down on him like many are. He's been a solid performer as far as Im concerned. A debauchery like this happens to every keeper once every 1-2 Years.
     
  19. Daei_10

    Daei_10 Member+

    Aug 22, 2007
    LA, California
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ancelotti, Mou, Klopp and many other managers easily say i take blame for the loss. I gotta fix things etc….dont think i ever hear Allegri say those words.

    he has brought a loser mentality to our fanbase and its accepted to be inferior. Somehow our players are to blame even though on paper we have an expensive squad.
     
  20. AGomes

    AGomes Member+

    Juventus
    Brazil
    Aug 29, 2023
    Anyhow. Tek is already 33 YO and makes way too much money for Juve's liking. Haven't heard anything out of PSG but if Luis Enrique isn't overly fond of Gigio, Juve need to bring him in.

    As for tomorrow, I have no idea what ia going right for Lecce. I know Milan sent Lorenzo Colombo to Monza, don't know where their goals are coming from. Maybe that Italo-Brazilian Gabriel Strefezza.
     
  21. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


    The club hates the fans, well except for the visiting fans, they can do everything the home fans can't.
     
  22. Daei_10

    Daei_10 Member+

    Aug 22, 2007
    LA, California
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    New Ownership and change is needed. Just sell the team please. I get the Nostalgia thing involved with Agnelli family but that ship has sailed. These days doesn’t even matter who the owners are anyways. Just fix finance, sack Max and make smart investment and decision and we can be good again.

    I like to see American ownership maybe. They’ll do better on marketing side as well, Juve is lacking in this department, way to Italian-centric. For having 2 American players we are pretty lame at creating more fans and buzz here. Part of that is our unattractive football but still, they can do a lot more.
     
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  23. Mean Machine

    Mean Machine Member+

    May 23, 2018
    Maybe the Saudis will put a bid in!
     
  24. Dante

    Dante Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  25. Dante

    Dante Moderator
    Staff Member

    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
    Club:
    Juventus FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There are reports of Amazon and Apple sniffing around, taking a minority stake in the club.
     

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