That was my thinking. He probably is doing what is best for him, which a player should always do. He probably has a good chance to break in at Chivas vs at Tigres and Chivas have a pretty good track record of giving kids a chance. You make money at club level, not international. Hopefully if everything works out and he comes back to the US set up when he leaves Chivas for greener pastures.
Umm, he's 20 and we're still converting LM' to LB's. He's at the front end of the learning curve with little to no competition.
He hasn't accepted a Mexican call-up or filed his one time switch. USA don't pay the bills and Chivas is giving him a chance. Gotta do what he's gotta do, unless you're willing to pay his way while he looks for a club that suits you.
Seriously, just leave the guy alone already. What Chivas offered is probably the best for him and his family and he knows he is not gonna be getting called up by Klinsmann anytime soon.
The only reason that he is even talked about at all is because he somehow found his way onto the U-20 WC team. He was awful at the U-20 WC, and showed that he can't mark wingers with speed. He is young, but he is a LB that runs like a 6'5 CB who has had a few knee operations. His speed is not going to improve.
Is that you Tab? JP was clearly out of his depth and it wasn't a coincidence when our opponents consistently went down our left flank at U20 WC. He won't even sniff our Futsal team.
Ah, yes, he didn't play his way onto the team. He didn't earn the right to represent The U.S. He just happened to be hanging out at the field the day Tab decided to throw together a U20 WC team. I get it. Too many, too often write off players who wind up contributing plenty to the program.
Juan Pablo @JuanOcegueda 21hYou got to do whats best for yourself at the moment and go from there...can't please everyone Juan Pablo @JuanOcegueda 17h Opportunities are slim, n mayb the best one is the worst one at the same time.thanks for the support and if you don't support me god bless u
Just so we're clear, I have no qualms with this decision. Let us never forget that this is a job for the players and they do it to make money and they have a limited window to make as much money as possible playing. This is a good business decision for him and if I were in his place I'd likely do the same thing.
Well this is awkward...I wasn't calling anyone out or anything, I haven't even read through the thread, I saw this announcement on twitter, I literally just was curious if he said anything about it on twitter, he did, so I posted it here for everyone haha.
I feel the same way, I have no issue with what he's doing here. I'm sure some people will view my comments about him not being good enough for international ball as sour grapes but it's my honest assessment. I said it long before this Chivas news came about. I really wish the kid all the best, just don't view this as a big loss for our program short term or long term.
Ocegueda made his debut for the Chivas U-20s yesterday going the distance in a 4-0 loss to Chiapas F.C.
American Exports: Juan Pablo Ocegueda rejoins Tigres after controversial stint with Chivas Guadalajara December 31, 2013 Tom Marshall MLSsoccer.com http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/artic...gueda-rejoins-tigres-after-controversial-stin https://es-la.facebook.com/juanoceg...44788206042.2084921.1426994193&type=1&theater
Ocegueda got into a Copa MX match for Tigres in March, which marked his pro debut. That's a nice milestone for Juan, but he's going to have to figure out what comes next. Unless I'm mistaken, he won't be eligible for the U-20 league next season, so it's first team or bust.
Looks like Ocegueda has joined Alebrijes de Oaxaca, possibly on loan, based on his Twitter account and various Spanish-language sources.
There was a huge display of alebrijes on a boulevard in the Roma neighborhood of Mexico City when I was visiting there last November. Pretty cool stuff.
I first learned about them on a trip to Sayulita on the west coast of Mexico. Took a trip to Puerta Vallarta where they were in all the touristy art shops. After that, I started seeing them everywhere. Same with Huichol art. Some really interesting back story to both and it all just really spoke to me.....I guess is the way to put it.
he's baaaaaaaaack after the whole Chivas thing http://www.ussoccer.com/stories/2014/08/01/10/30/140801-u23mnt-camp-roster
Kid took quite the verbal shellac'ing here on BS - and elsewhere - for doing what he had to do to take his opportunity with Chivas. I'm sure he's a stronger player and person for it all. Best of luck to him.