PBP: Joe Biden vs Donald Trump :: The Election That Just Won’t End Thread :: [R]

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  1. The Jitty Slitter

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    #126 The Jitty Slitter, Nov 3, 2020
    I recall Sykes was wondering if Trump has suppressed his own vote
     
  2. rslfanboy

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    #127 rslfanboy, Nov 3, 2020
    This always comes to mind:
     
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  3. rslfanboy

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    #128 rslfanboy, Nov 3, 2020
    I've been thinking of that a lot lately. Although it is being played up, it seems like the ground game in rather anemic. Casting doubt on vote-by-mail and relying on day-of-voting seems like it will backfire spectacularly.
     
  4. KensingtonSC

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    #129 KensingtonSC, Nov 3, 2020
    I like to think of the Trump campaign as low-level movie mobsters. They know there's not chance to win, so they're stealing as much as they can. Everything must go. And when there's nothing left to steal or sell, you burn the whole thing down.

    It's all profit. And then finally, when there's nothing left, when you can't borrow another buck from the bank or buy another case of booze, you bust the joint out. You light a match.
     
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  5. Knave

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    #130 Knave, Nov 3, 2020
    Worth remembering that the NRA basically ran Trump's GOTV operation in 2016.
     
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  6. ASU55RR

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    #131 ASU55RR, Nov 3, 2020
    I don't really believe in making predictions based on turnout before vote counting started, but I also keep wanting to predict what will happen based on turnout.
     
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  7. argentine soccer fan

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    #132 argentine soccer fan, Nov 3, 2020
    A classic
     
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  8. The Jitty Slitter

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    #133 The Jitty Slitter, Nov 3, 2020
    Then all their money went missing.

    How odd!
     
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  9. Knave

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    #134 Knave, Nov 3, 2020
    I wondered about this too. You don't need too many Trump voters deciding it's just not worth the effort to destroy any hope Trump might have. And I suspect some small percentage of would-be Trump voters don't want to bother showing up to vote for a guy who they think will lose. At least a small percentage of would-be Trump voters can read polls.
     
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  10. Knave

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    #135 Knave, Nov 3, 2020
    Wasn't the NRA 2016 GOTV program Russian funded?
     
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  11. onefineesq

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    #136 onefineesq, Nov 3, 2020
    Pretty much.
     
  12. argentine soccer fan

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    #137 argentine soccer fan, Nov 3, 2020
    That's because Trump is not really Republican. Well, come to think of it, the Republican base is not really Republican. Republicans are not really Republicans anymore.
     
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  13. argentine soccer fan

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    #138 argentine soccer fan, Nov 3, 2020
    LOL! That would be poetic justice. So much effort spent into trying to suppress the opposition's votes, and not enough into trying to get your own supporters to the polls.
     
  14. appoo

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    #139 appoo, Nov 3, 2020
    Make my anxiety drop by about 0.5%
     
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  15. Knave

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    #140 Knave, Nov 3, 2020
    Meanwhile, my election day plans are going well. Drinking espresso outside my favorite coffee place.

    That's coffee number 3.
     
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  16. rslfanboy

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    #141 rslfanboy, Nov 3, 2020
    Just finished beer #1.
     
  17. luftmensch

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    #142 luftmensch, Nov 3, 2020
    I’m working (or more accurately “working”), so very envious of your ability to beer up early.

    But I am about to treat myself to a pad Thai loaded with crabmeat for lunch, this is not a day for austerity.
     
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  18. bigredfutbol

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    #143 bigredfutbol, Nov 3, 2020
    This is absolutely me.

    I thought this was me as well, but I 'treated' myself to Popeyes and it was...not as good as I remembered.

    I very rarely indulge in junk/fast food but I didn't pack much for lunch.

    Plus they got the side wrong.
     
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  19. argentine soccer fan

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    #144 argentine soccer fan, Nov 3, 2020
    Guys, I know there's a lot of stress, but I hope you take the time to appreciate the moment, to enjoy this evening. We are witnessing history.

    I remember the first election in Argentina after the military coup, won by Raul Alfonsin in 1983 - over 35 years ago. It was something special, and I'll never forget how I felt. Today I feel the same way. I believe that what happens in the next few hours will be a turning point in the history of the United States. My friends, this will be a night to remember!

    Cheers!
     
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  20. bigredfutbol

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    #145 bigredfutbol, Nov 3, 2020
    Thanks for this.

    I do hope that tonight is not only the end of our slide into autocracy, but also the beginning of a re-commitment to building a better democracy.
     
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  21. The Jitty Slitter

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    #146 The Jitty Slitter, Nov 3, 2020
    I am going to sleep I think
     
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  22. celito

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    #147 celito, Nov 3, 2020
    Ugh ... only so much I'd be able to take Alex Jones speaking. And the amount is around 10 seconds.
     
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  23. ChrisSSBB

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    #148 ChrisSSBB, Nov 3, 2020
    When you wake up, there should be some good indications of where we are.
     
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  24. Paul Berry

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    #149 Paul Berry, Nov 3, 2020
    I figure Biden is going to win the following:

    California - 55 ec votes
    New York - 29
    Illinois - 20
    New Jersey - 14
    Virginia - 13
    Washington - 12
    Massachusetts - 11
    Maryland - 10
    Colorado - 9
    Oregon - 7
    Connecticut - 7
    New Mexico - 5
    Rhode Island - 4
    Hawaii - 4
    Maine - 4
    Delaware - 3
    Vermont - 3
    District of Columbia - 3
    ---‐-----------------‐---------------- 213 votes

    So he needs 57 battleground votes:

    New Hampshire - 4
    Wisconsin - 10
    Minnesota - 10
    Michigan 16
    Nevada - 6
    Arizona - 11
    ‐--------------------------- 57 votes

    So he could win without Florida, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, Georgia or Texas.

    However, because Maine splits its electoral college votes, he may need one more state. In the last election Clinton won 72.5% of the Maine vote but only got 3 of the 4 electoral college votes. Trump got the other.

    Remaining battleground states:

    North Carolina - 15
    Georgia - 16
    Pennsylvania - 20
    Florida - 29
    Texas - 38
    Ohio - 18
    Iowa - 6
     
  25. rslfanboy

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    #150 rslfanboy, Nov 3, 2020
    I was supposed to get up at 4:15 and be in by 5am. I slept intermittently dreaming vividly of murders/murdering/being murdered and really intense sex. It was like that Event Horizon video they found of the crew that had vanished. It sucked.

    I decided to call it a day. Reboot. Hopefully tonight I dream of hiking, water skiing, and pushing my daughters on the swing.
     
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