Ismail Elfath New MLS REF

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by simont, May 20, 2012.

  1. simont

    simont Member

    Nov 15, 2005
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  2. EvanJ

    EvanJ Member+

    Manchester United
    United States
    Mar 30, 2004
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'll try to watch the game, but those highlights definitely look like bad mistakes.
     
  4. Boloni86

    Boloni86 Member+

    Jun 7, 2000
    Baltimore
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Gibraltar
    The penalty calls were excessive but at least consistent.
     
  5. BakedAlaskan

    BakedAlaskan Member+

    Feb 28, 2002
    Ancho-RAGE,Alaska
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To be honest, I thought the refs did a pretty good job this weekend as a whole. I didn't see every match, but I thought the refs called their respective matches pretty consistent.
     
  6. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Now that I've seen the whole game, I think Ismail had an okay game. Yes the first PK was a bad decision. Tthe second PK was borderline, but that was the AR's decision. The rest of the game, his calls looked correct, and his positioning was good.
     
  7. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    We saw a match this weekend where a penalty was correctly retaken because of encroachment into the box. That didn't happen in this match. I admit I haven't seen the entire match, but that definitely stood out in the highlights.
     
  8. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    Seems like a good thread for this comment as well. On 5/12, we had a ref in his first game for the Fire/Sporting match. Jose Carlos Rivero. I was in the stands and had questions about a number of calls that were critical to the game. One was the first Sporting goal that appeared to be severely offsides. Second was a penalty kick awarded to the Fire on a tackle in the box. The third was a red card issued to Roger Espinoza after he made contact but where he got the ball first. There were also a few more yellows given in the game.

    After watching on tape, this guy and his crew got every single call right. There was no offsides on the Sporting goal. The Collin tackle in the box was from behind with contact made (even if there was the slightest touch on the ball, you can't come at it from that angle and go through the guy) and the red card was a pretty blatant elbow to the head.

    So, kudos to that new ref in that game. I didn't see the game at issue in this thread, but if the guy made a mistake or two but then had a solid game, it gives me some hope that the young refs might be a step up in quality.
     
  9. Shopping Cart Man

    Sep 21, 2006
    Jacksonville, FL
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is it just me or have there been more first time refs this season than there have been in previous seasons?
     
  10. Chris M.

    Chris M. Member+

    Jan 18, 2002
    Chicago
    Well, I believe there were more in 1996. ;)
     
  11. mjlee22

    mjlee22 Quake & Landon fan

    Nov 24, 2003
    near Palo Alto, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There's probably a good write-up on this in the internet somewhere. I don't have the exact details, but basically, MLS and USSoccer spun off a professional MLS referee body to manage and improve MLS refereeing. So my assumption is that part of that new program is working to bring up a lot of new referees.

    They hired a british ref guy to run it, which SoccerAmerica's Paul Gardner complained about. But apparently, the Brit is supposed to be mentoring an American to eventually take his place. The feeling was that there was no American ref who had the ref credentials, and experience handling the media and a $$M budget.

    Some feel that MLS referees working every week is too much (especially since they have other jobs). E.g. if a ref has a bad game, it would be good if he could have 2 weeks off. I thought that was kind of opposite to the common thinking about referee recovery (i.e. get back on the horse after you fall off), but this was a FIFA ref who told me this, so who am I to argue...
     
  12. We are Rose City

    We are Rose City New Member

    May 31, 2011
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    I haven't looked his name up but the guy who ref'd the Timbers/Fire game this last weekend was excellent. Now, the line judge on the west sideline (opposite the Key Bank Club side) was horrible, having gotten a few out of bounds calls wrong.
     
  13. Revolt

    Revolt Member+

    Jun 16, 1999
    Davis, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This is purely my own opinion, but I do feel like the refereeing has improved this year.

    Or it might the disciplinary committee suspending guys for fouls/antics the refs missed.

    In either case, my ref satisfaction index is very bullish this year.
     
  14. Fiosfan

    Fiosfan Red Card

    Mar 21, 2010
    Nevada
    Club:
    New York City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It could be the above .........
     

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