Is transfer fee expense 1 of the big reasons why elite soccer players are earning relatively less...

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You obviously know very little about this topic.

Matsuzaka IS and WILL be a rookie upon his first year in MLB.

IF not, then how in the world did Kazuhiro Sasaki win AL rookie of the year honours at the very tender age of 32 after playing for 10 years in Japan???

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/news/2000/11/06/sasaki_roy_ap/

Same thing for Ichiro as a 27 yr old rookie?!?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ichiro_Suzuki

Hideo Nomo?!? Also 27 yrs old when he won NL rookie of the year?!?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hideo_Nomo


Try sticking to the facts buddy...

 

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the only thing i don't get is why he is so obsessed with it, and why people care to respond.

 

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Who's to say they'd pay much more than $9 million if he was on a free?

And more importantly, stop someone else signing him.

 

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Problem is, if you run your contract out, by then all the teams who need you may have bought someone else instead, so you're left with nowhere to go.

For instance, let's say if Hargreaves ran his contract out at Bayern, but by then United had got someone else in to do his job.

They lose the ability to get a player now, when they need them, rather than later, when they don't.

 

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Could you even try to grasp the idea that just because a club doesn't have to pay a transfer fee for a player, it doesn't mean they are automatically willing to double his salary.

Could you even offer the merest glimmer of the taking the hint that the huge differences in salaries that exist in US sports are there for cultural reasons and are completely accepted, and that attitude doesn't exist elsewhere.

Could you possibly attempt to work into your thinking the demand for payment parity, as seen at Chelsea with players wanting to be brought up to Ballack's level, and how that would be a massive disincentive to any club presented with the "opportunity" of paying a top player a comparibly massive salary.

 

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We have no idea if that's true.

A meaningless tournament no one pays any attention to.

We know he's almost certainly NOT that.

Actually, he took a longer deal for a bit of a reduced salary. He's not especially young and no one knows how well he's going to play in major leagues. Japanese players have historically received smaller salaries in MLB than their performance in Japan would suggest. For every Ichiro, there's been a Hideki Irabu. And lets also not forget that the last Japanese pitcher to make it big - Hideo Nomo - regressed significantly as his career went on.
The argument you're making is equal to "of course Sheva is worth 30M - he's one of the best strikers on the planet!". Well, we paid 30M for him. He probably is one of the best strikers on the planet, but playing in Italy and in England aren't the same, as he's discovering.

That's not true, actually. Jason Schmidt, a proven commodity is being paid that much. Why would you pay a completely unproven foreign player that much money?

The way that this auction worked was NOT a transfer fee, and you're wrong for thinking that it is. The two situations are not analogous.

I think part of the problem is that you don't know very much about baseball either. How is Randy Ramirez playing for Boston these days?

P.S. As far as Ballack's salary, none of the links you provided have any evidence. They just suggest that's how much he makes. And, they don't differentiate between his bonus and his salary, which is an illusion, since a player who transfers to another club receives part of the fee.

 

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That’s baseless speculation

 

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Its all speculation.

 

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I think he meant Manny Ramirez.

 

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It's not in England at least. Any player who has not requested a transfer is entitled to a percentage of the fee (I think it's around 10%).

 

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It depends on clauses in individual contracts - there's no fixed percentage every player gets. I think clubs are finding such clauses worthless anyway, as rather than staying "loyal" as clubs hoped they'd do instead of putting in a transfer request and demanding a transfer, players are just demanding a transfer without putting in an official request instead, so they can get an extra fee.

 

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I know exactly what he meant. But when was the last time you wrote "Real Madrid player Roger Beckham"?

 

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It's all classic pc4th. Make assumptions without stating them and attempting to force conclusions on us.

You've sure got a long way to go to be a "researcher."

 

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Well, I'll at least give him credit for his...uhhh...creativity

 

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Transfer fees are zero sum. If teams are spending money on transfers then they're also receiving them, so the total amount of money available for wages stays the same.

 

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They are zero sum overall, but they are a loss for the bigger clubs and a gain for the smaller ones. They distribute the money from the top down.

 

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There's something called "potential". It's sort of similar to how Lebron James received a $90million contract from Nike before he even stepped foot on a NBA court.

And how do you know this? You've yet to prove it.

And why would they have to reduce their payrolls? If the Red Sox have a $200m payroll and just went out and signed another player to a huge long term deal, do you really expect them to reduce their payroll for next season? They will find other means to replace that money that's been spent in order to remain competitive with the Yankees.

Let me show you an example in football.

Look at ManU's signings and transfers last summer.

In: Michael Carrick (Spurs) £18.6m
Tomasz Kuszcak (West Brom) £3m

Out: Ruud Van Nistelrooy (Real Madrid) £10.2m
Jonathan Spector (West Ham) £500k
Paul McShane (West Brom) £500k
Sylvain Ebanks-Blake (Plymouth) £500k
Luke Steele (West Brom) Undisclosed

ManU spent £21.6m on signings but elimated some of that expenditure by receiving £12m in transfer fees. They also have at least 7 guys on loan and I'm not sure if they get compensation for that, but that's still not factoring in the length of player contracts and a whole host of issues. It's much more complex than you think.