Here is an informative and unbiased site about current events in Iran: http://regimechangeiran.blogspot.com/
Question: If people from Iran are so proud, why do they always say they are "Persian?" Is that the ethnicity and Iran is only the name of the country? And why don't they change the name to Persia, that would affect most American's views on Iran more than, say, stopping the nuke madness. Eg.: "Hey, PERSIA is developing nuclear waepons. Oh well, maybe it will bring down the cost of rugs."
Well, it's not quite a sub-forum, but a sticky (& the top one at that!) should reassure our Iranian posters that the value of Persian culture & civilization has not been overlooked or forgotten. P.S. Will this be enough?
Don't you realize that Iran can only be called Persia when its empire has been restored & the country has regained the proper respect & sphere of influence that it deserves & is entitled to? (the sticky is only a start) P.S. Still might be a good idea, as we are yet to decide whether "eye-ran" or "ear-ron" is the proper Western pronunciation.
It was a line from a video game. The translation was so pathetically funny that it made the rounds on the internet. You can look it up on wikipedia. (No, seriously.) That you can look this up on Wikipedia, incidentally, is one of the reasons I don't take wikipedia seriously.
Re: Iran-EU hold Talks Amidst Indications the EU Might Agree to Enrichment in Iran I hope a real solution can be found, but typically the quote above usually is code for: We aren't very close. We don't expect to close the gap. But we have to issue a statement that saves face.
go ahead. live in your dream world. it must be wonderful to be so easily pacified by your government.
If Iran isn't careful the next phrase they will be saying will be similar to one from that game, Oh no, somebody set us up the bomb!
There are different divisions in Iranians even. The country has been home to many other races including turks, azeri's, kurds, and more divisions as well. The Persians are the 'real' Iranians you could say. They originate more from Tehran and Esfehan and Shiraz even.
That's one of the reasons I do take Wikipedia seriously. I can pretty much count on any subject being covered. A recent study of scientific topics found that Wikipedia was about as accurate as Encyclopedia Britannica.
Self hating little bitch. You're just bitter. I sent you a PM a while ago after I saw you posting a thread to let you know my "true feelings" in the "nicest way possible", but unfortunately your inbox was full. Everyone who has stayed around here long enough knows that one of the biggest problems in Iran and in particular is the rich poor divide (the rich being in the north and the poor in the south). The scenary is different, the south is far more religious and not nearly as well educated; generally, it doesn't even feel like the same place. AN was elected largely because the poor who care about what happens in their lives turns in large numbers to vote, whereas a large proportion of the educated and wealthy who form the majority (I would think, but I could be wrong) decided to not vote in protest! After the comments made by Mr Bush, the religious sect was even more motivated to turn up for the vote, and that is how Iran got the current government.
Re: Iran bans Rock n' Roll! That's a pretty smug thing to say. Personally I find Neokunam's post a thousand times more interesting than eight pages of stale jokes beginning with the line "But Iran invented . . ." That can get old.
Wow, first appease the Iranians, then dis them. This bodes ill. They'll get their sub-forum yet. P.S. Why hasn't the cloned sheep thread been dumped into here?
wow it is nice to see you can find some spare time from checking user’s location on request from paid users (well we all know the rules of the site doesn't apply to the moderators) to throw around idiotic sarcasm as well!! *claps*
Let me give you the following synopsis on the different meanings of terms such as Iran, Persia, Iranian or Persian. The name "Iran" has been the name used by Iranians to refer to their country for ages. Iran means "Land of Aryans" and was initially, until the Parthian period in the 2nd century BC, more of a geographic and ethnic description denoting lands that various Iranian tribes (Persians, Medes, Parthians, etc) claimed as their home. It became the official, political, designation for the country under the Parthians and Sassanids (contemporaries of Rome, even though the Romans continued the Greek practice of calling Iran "Persia") and remained the name used by Iranians to refer to their country ever since. In the West, however, Iran was known by its old Greek name "Persia" until the Iranian government in 1936 requested that Iran be referred to by its indigineous name (Iran). Technically, Persia refers to only one part of Iran and the Persians are one of several Iranian and non-Iranian groups that make up Iran as a whole. Somewhat akin to the relationship between England and United Kingdom. Within Iran itself, those who are Persian speakers (a majority in Iran) are referred to as as "Persians" (Pars or Fars) with their language known as Parsi or more recently Farsi (derived from Parsi after the letter F began to supplement the letter P following the Arab invasion given that the Arabs did not have the letter P). There are many other Iranian citizens (Azeris, Kurds, Baluchis, Arabs, etc), however, who are not native Persian speakers and, hence, might not call themselves Persians. To be sure, even some Iranians who are from other ethnic groups might refer to themselves as "Persians" when speaking to foreigners, since Persian is the official language of Iran and has a prominent place in Iranian culture. As a political designation, if you are a citizen of Iran, you can call yourself an Iranian regardless of your ethnicity. Or, alternatively, you might call yourself a Persian the same way an Englishman might call himself such instead of referring to himself as a Brit. As a racial-ethnic designation, however, an "Iranian" would be one who claims decent or heritage from one of the Iranian (or Aryan) tribes of Iran (e.g., Persians, Kurds, most Azeris despite today speaking a non-Iranian language, but not Arabs). As a linguisitic-ethnic designation, you are Iranian if you are speak an "Iranian language" (Persian, Kurdish, Gilaki, Baluchi, etc), as opposed to non-Iranian languages (semetic languages like Arabic or Hebrew, or even Indo-European languages that are not strictly classified as part of the Iranian group of languages such as Armenian). Last point. For various reasons, including the prominent mention of Persia in the Old Testament and the fact that the overwhelming majority of "Persian Jews" speak Persian instead of Hebrew, terms like "Persia" and "Persian" is quite popular among Persian Jews, especially those who have immigrated to the US. Conversely, because of the association and the meaning of the term "Iranian" (Aryan), some Persian Jews are not as comfortable with the designation Iranian Jews. Similarily, although being the correct political designation for the small minority of Iranians who are Arabs, in broader linguistic and ethnic terms it is somewhat of an oxymoron to call someone an "Iranian Arab".