Pre-match: International Friendly: USA vs Mexico; September 6th

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  1. FC Tallavana

    FC Tallavana Member+

    Jul 1, 2004
    La Quinta
    I'm not digging his choices so far as manager but that was a pretty benign statement by him. He didn't really say anything other than we'll have some familiar faces and some new faces. My guess is that every poster on BS would select some familiar faces and some new faces if they had the power to do so. Obviously, he has had some players in his core group who don't deserve to be in it by any reasonable standard. My hope is that when he speaks of guys from the core he's talking about Pulisic, McKennie, Steffen, etc., instead of Bradley, Zardes, Trapp, etc.
     
  2. Suyuntuy

    Suyuntuy Member+

    Jul 16, 2007
    Vancouver, Canada
    B..b..but we took over a year to find the best! We even hired a general manager to marshal the search!
     
  3. 50/50 Ball

    50/50 Ball Member+

    Sep 6, 2006
    USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The qualifying opposition isn't any better than Gold Cup.
     
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  4. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Memphis, Tn
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    it certainly is. we only faced two of the five, six capable teams in the gold cup. we get all of them in the hex.
    theres no guyanas in the hex.
     
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  5. 50/50 Ball

    50/50 Ball Member+

    Sep 6, 2006
    USA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The hex is no more goal dangerous.
     
  6. NietzscheIsDead

    United States
    May 31, 2019
    I think that the ideal situation for a series of friendlies like this is to bring in some of your core leadership and bring in ancillary players to see how well they mesh with your core.

    However, our core leadership are establishing themselves in Europe. Wes, Adams, Steffen, and Pulisic...there's your core. The ancillary leadership guys are Jozy, Arriola, Bradley, and Zardes. So, I would expect to see some combination of the aforementioned.

    Personally, I'd prefer to see the U23 team, however it sounds like that will not happen this time. It sounds like Berrhalter is trying to establish a cultural continuity and to move the teams' functional knowledge base forward. His coaching requires a lot of information digestion, so this may be part of that process.

    Here's who I expect:

    Forwards: Altidore, Sargent, Zardes, Morris, Soto
    Midfielders: McKennie, Bradley, Arriola, Boyd, Lleget, Holmes, Morales, Yedlin, Pomykal
    Backs: Long, Brooks, Cannon, Hollingshead, Zimmerman, Dest
    GK: Horvath, Hamid, Johnson

    What I'd prefer:

    Forwards: Altidore, Sargent, Soto, Akinola, Llanez
    Midfielders: Sabbi, Arriola, Boyd, Lleget, Holmes, Morales, Mendez, Servania, Pomykal
    Backs: Long, Brooks, Cannon, Hollingshead, Zimmerman, Dest
    GK: Horvath, Hamid, Johnson

    What I expect to see run out:

    Boyd-----Altidore----Morris
    Arriola----Bradley----Holmes
    Dest--Brooks---Long--Cannon
    --------------Hamid-------------------

    What I'd prefer to see run out:

    Boyd-----Altidore-----Sabbi
    Arriola---Pomykal---Holmes
    Dest--Brooks--Zimmerman--Cannon
    ---------------Horvath-----------------
     
  7. ifsteve

    ifsteve Member

    Manchester United
    United States
    Jul 7, 2013
    MS and ID
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hard to see them pulling both Altidore and Bradley away from Toronto when they have two matches during these friendlies and they are on the cut line for the playoffs.
     
  8. sXeWesley

    sXeWesley Member+

    Jun 18, 2007
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What exactly is the argument in favor of calling either of these guys up for completely meaningless friendlies at this point? Even if you adopt the viewpoint that they are crucial, core, lock starters ahead of everyone else at their respective positions, etc. Wouldn't that be all the more reason to audition and test others?

    I just don't see the logic from any angle.
     
  9. KicksNgiggles

    KicksNgiggles Member

    Aug 18, 2016
    BHM
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's been playing RB FWIW
     
  10. Pegasus

    Pegasus Member+

    Apr 20, 1999
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Some teams play players out of position to round out their game. Not sure that's what's happening here but who knows?
     
  11. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    I know. But it's only been a game or two at the development level and I'm stubborn.
     
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  12. ifsteve

    ifsteve Member

    Manchester United
    United States
    Jul 7, 2013
    MS and ID
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There is zero reason to call in Bradley. Zero. In fact I don't care if he never gets called in again but for this set of matches is makes no sense at all.

    There is some logic to calling in Altidore but I wouldn't. I'd rather see Soto, Sargent, and Weah although sounds like Weah is hurt now too and I suspect Sargent is going to the U23 camp??
     
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  13. yurch10

    yurch10 Member+

    Feb 13, 2004
    Agreed with this.

    BUT, I was the first on here to hypothesize about the caps record for MB. If he is called into meaningless friendlies, 2 years after Couvo, while being an average/below average MLS performer, I don't think it'll be a hypothesis anymore...
     
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  14. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Egg needs to get his nose out of his recipe book
    We've seen, more than once, that Egg tends to do well til opponents adjust to his game, at the half, say. As he gets deeper into his run he'll need to be much more flexible, disguised, complex. Otherwise, there will be a "book" on playing Egg and he'll lose more than win.
     
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  15. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    I believe Pulisic and Sargent have played together only once? (v. Italy)

    They were playing without a good cf because we were in a 532.

    ------------sarge---puli
    --Delgado--adams--acosta
    -moore--long-miazga-ccv-cannon
    ----------gk:---horvath

    The following will be out or not called up, imo: Bradley, Jozy, Delgado, Acosta, Moore, Miazga, CCV, Adams, Weah.

    I think Trapp and Zardes will be called up because they don't have Crew games in the window.

    Assuming Egg goes with that hybrid 3cb set that uses Ream as a lb/lcb hybrid, I wouldn't mind seeing

    -------------zardes/soto
    --------puli--------------sarge
    -----pomykal--trapp--servania/roldan
    ----ream---long---robinson/glad--lima/cannon/tt/dest
    ---------------gk:Horvath


    Let's not disturb Steffen situation at Dusseldorf while Horvath sits benched in need of some reps. Soto can use some reps. If Sarge had more minutes in Germany I wouldn't disturb him but I think he needs a good workout.
     
  16. nowherenova

    nowherenova Member+

    Jul 20, 2003
    Formerly Terminus
    "So you're saying there's a chance?"
     
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  17. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    Well, if we’re focused on giving Bradley the cap record, I’d rather these games than meaningful ones....
     
  18. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    But.....we have posters who vehemently argue that Berhalter has been tactically astute throughout his tenure. Just look at the coaching philosophy thread.....
     
  19. DHC1

    DHC1 Member+

    Jun 3, 2002
    NYC
    I thought you wanted Weston as a defender since he played a couple of games there last year.....

    Secondly, guess who Pulisic really likes playing with? I’ll give you a hint and point out that they combined for a nice goal at the gold cup.
     
  20. Salmos

    Salmos Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 26, 2010
    Berkeley, CA
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
    #270 Salmos, Aug 27, 2019
    Last edited: Aug 27, 2019
    Wasn't expecting a near full squad from Martino but it makes sense considering he hasn't seen how some important players who weren't there for the gold cup fit in with the players that were there.

     
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  21. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    I think he is going all out for the Argentina friendly which is why it was such a big call up list. I would expect something similar to what happened with Tuca when Mexico played with different lineups for each game during the FIFA dates.
     
  22. Excellency

    Excellency Member+

    Nov 4, 2011
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Wes is playing mid for Schalke at the mom.
     
  23. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
  24. yurch10

    yurch10 Member+

    Feb 13, 2004
    The fact I'm so pleased with that shows how badly Egg has messed up his first year in charge.

    But seeing Dest with the team is tremendous. Thought for sure he'd defer and wait a bit on Holland.
     
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  25. rgli13

    rgli13 Member+

    Mar 23, 2005
    Memphis, Tn
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    weve got two robinsons, man...
     
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