Didn't read the whole article, but if it's New Yorkers or people on the street, some of this makes sesne. Still kind of funny that USA has people that say they will win, and yet people say they are rooting against themselves (because they are likely jumping on the bandwagon of someone else).
in the end of the article there is the method used for the poll. Over 21 thousand people answered the poll on the internet (poll conducted by another company). They say that in the nations above where internet is not widespread, the poll represents what the upper classes with internet access think, but not necessarily the whole population, while countries with widespread internet, the poll is considered the to represent the whole country (obviously, as with all statistics, they take into acount number of people for error margins, deviations, etc) also, the US case is not very different from Brazil, where Brazil was the favorite country to win but also the 2nd country most locals are rooting against. what you must understand is that in the US, US was favorite to win by a majority of only 14% of people interviewed. The other 86% had no favorites or were spreaded among multiple countries. Brazil on the other hand, was the only country where a TOTAL majority of people thought Brazil would win... 64% of Brazilians think Brazil will win, while 36% don´t have a favorite or are divided among several countries. Same thing with the rooting against. Let´s say 100 people were interviewed in the US. 14 of those people think US will win. In Brazil 64 of 100 people think Brazil will win. In the US, maybe there is 13 people out of those 100 that root against the US (maybe all mexican-americans?). The 13 that root against obviously are not the same that think it will win. Same with Brazil. 64 out of 100 think Brazil will win. Maybe 99 out 100 root against Argentina. And ONE of them root against Brazil. Even so, that would put Brazil second in the list of rooted against in Brazil. Statistics are fun
Surprised to have English people wanting Russia to lose. They're well down the list. Is this a survey of people who log onto the New York Times? Only media saturation coverage can explain England getting votes as the most beautiful from Japan and Australia.
Also Russia. Odd. Russians and Americans hate each other, but also think their teams will win the World Cup, and will actively root against their own teams? We have a lot in common, I would say.... Besides invading countries for no reason. And I suppose we don't make much sense at all to the rest of the world.
For Colombia that's easy. For Chile, I have no idea. But Australia I totally understand. If you watch Australian television, they seem to get the absolute worst of American TV. Yeah, it would make me mad too.
" We provide details on the study’s methodology. In brief: YouGov conducted 19,780 online interviews, in 19 countries between May 19 and June 2. In nine countries with lower Internet access rates, the results are intended to reflect the views of Internet users in those country, who tend to be more urban. In 10 countries with higher Internet usage, the results are intended to apply to the full population. YouGov also conducted interviews in a 20th country, Iran, but determined that the sample consisted of too narrow a slice of the population." http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/11/upshot/methodology-of-world-cup-study.html "The study of public opinion about the World Cup is based on 19,780 interviews conducted by YouGov in 19 countries between May 19 and June 2. YouGov conducted the interviews online, after selecting respondents from opt-in panels recruited by YouGov or its partners."
Sure, we've seen the methodology problems there, and the full numbers tell a rather different story instead of just paying attention to "first and second" etc. Still, there are some very strange results. How in the hell are people thinking that Spain plays beautiful football??? Spain plays the most boring brand of football I've ever seen in my entire footballing-watching life. Whaaaaat??? The French look really disgusting. They root against Algeria, a country they raped and exploited at will. Then, they secondly root against themselves! Wow, way to go, Frenchmen... What in the hell do the Germans have against Honduras???? Oh wow, the Japanese and South Koreans hate each other. We knew that, already. The Mexicans are funny. They hate the United States, but then they also hate Iran, a traditional adversary of the United States in geopolitical terms. Go figure... Only the Spaniards think they'll win the World Cup. That is funny. I hope they are not proven right. In our own BigSoccer poll, Spain was considered to be the most disliked team. We Americans thinking we'll win is weird. In all other polls I saw, we're not that deluded.
The US newspaper merely reported on a survey done by another organization which specializes in international surveys. Drop the prejudiced view.
Is Brazil really favored that heavily? I know they are a favorite but damn, picked by a vast majority to win it all. Is it because it's in Brazil and many don't think the cup will go to anyone outside of South America? I have Germany winning it all. I had the assumption Brazil is a young, inexperienced squad
It's in Brazil and they won the confed cup. Even without those two things, Brazil is often regarded as the favoutire or at least one of the favourites in every world cup, just because they won it the most.
Chile: In 1973 the CIA helped overthrow a democratically elected socialist government. The military dictatorship lasted 17 or so years and over 3000 people were disappeared and thousands more tortured, many in the national soccer stadium. When Chile play at home, they leave a section empty for the people killed there. ESPN 30 for 30 had a great documentary about the wc qualification campaign:
I actually live in chile part of the year and i was pretty surprised we're on the list. You don't get the feeling that they hate us when you're here. But after Argentina, their rivals (bolivia/peru) don't make the world cup, so it makes sense.
as i said in another thread, it's not the same voters. there are some algerians rooting against france, and some french rooting against algeria. but in both cases, especially teh second, it's a minority. in fact i don't know ANYONE rooting against algeria. aces high's post is very useful in explaining why these "findings" need to be taken with a big grain of salt.
this is a internet questionnary. and in internet there is a LOT of guys who hate algerie. (you can read the comments on every article about algeria on a french website. there is not a lot of hate. but the haters are very active on internet. and i think the common french have sympathy for algerian team but prefer it to lose. because when algeria win, the fans make a lot of noise ) and as i said in the other thread. i don't think that this survey should be taken seriously. i think that some question had been translated wrong (the guy who translate the question in german said them "which country is the weakest" instead of "which country you dislike". thats why they answered honduras and iran instead of netherlands and england or france.)
exactly, the results in the table don´t show WHAT % of respondents said they hate Algeria or France. Let´s say french "hate" is pretty divided. you can have like 10% of ultra nationalists who hate immigrants, hating Algeria. The other 90% of french do not hate Algeria. Then you can have 9% of respondents who hate France. All countries have people who root against themselves. Then the other 80% of french are divided in rooting against a multitude of countries. Just an example of HOW the results should be read.
in one important game i know i was rooting against algeria... because i'm from the USA . if i open my window in my neighborhood i'm sure i could tell when france scored. also romania or bulgaria (because there's a foyer just down the block). portugal a lot more though. algeria the most.
Well, madtown explained it. But no I wasn't kidding. I'm 30 and the US public school system didn't really cover 20th century history all that well past WWII (In fact my previous history class never even made it to WWII, so I never studied it in school either). The only things I can remember my teacher going over from 1945 to 2000 (the year I took the course that would have covered it) were the Korean and Vietnam Wars, Watergate, and McCarthy. The only thing to do with the CIA that we covered involved the Iranian hostage situation.
[QUOTE="guignol, post: 30367043, member: in one important game i know i was rooting against algeria... because i'm from the USA . [/QUOTE] Don't remind me this sad memory There is some place in france, you can know the result of the ACN just by opening the window
more where you can than can't! 92200? 69006? 83350? tres peu pour nous, mon cher. anywhere else? probably!