News: Impact Sub - OGS The New Gaffer Thread

It's confusing with Ole, he's definitely not great but he is not horrible. He will get us all excited like yesterday and let us down. Just a vicious cycle.

I don't mind a new manager but my thinking has been I am not sure who would lead us to success under this Woodward/Glazer leadership and why would anyone credible like Poch wants to work in this kind of amateur setup.

 

I like Ole, I think hes a very good man manager, but tactically hes lost. He routinely gets outcoached and thinks bringing in subs are the only way to make changes in game. Arteta schooled him last game and its something we see happen more and more often. When we win, its on talent alone, not because our tactics/setup were better than the oppositions.

Hes gone before seasons end and his inability to improve as a tactician will be partially to blame. The majority still falls on Woody and co, but Ole wont be without blame. He should be doing better with the talent on our team.

 

Not true at all.

All the big games say otherwise. Especially the last 2 CL games.

 

The thing with Ole is that there seems to be no adjustment or urgency from him when things are not working.
Like yesterday, the subs are like for like and there is no adjustment to our shape. It was like, let me throw on Cavani and Vdb and see what happens.

 

The plan B of lumping the ball to Maguire, alla Fellaini, was the worst part of the season so far for me.

 

Lets see when they blink

 

Think falling into the relegation zone would make them blink?

 

Nah they care ONLY about $$$, Cl exit and when we are out of top 4 race..

 

Pochettino was out by mid November with Tottenham in 14th. It wouldn't surprise me if Poch replaced him ironically enough.

 

I think I'm officially getting onboard team #oleout. Is it his fault? Nope. Has he done enough to stay? Nope.

 

It almost seems like Poch is waiting for this job. The Ole-coaster is on a downward drop right now and another league loss might be the tonic to get him in here.

 

He’d go a long way by recognizing his position, and ingratiating himself with the fans by speaking out against the hierarchy.

 

Yep. Problem is the board is good at making the manager think they're being backed until the last second when they stab him in the back. He needs to read the writing on the wall and publicly turn on them.

 

Not sure who is doing the defensive coaching, doubt it is Ole - probably more likely Phelan or McKenna. Whoever, Ole should get some extra help in on defensive coaching to work with the team for a while maybe from a Rio or Gaz - as we are a shambles defensively atm.

 

Other than yesterday's match, i don't think the defense has been bad. I think the issue is more with the attack.
I am no tactical expert but looking back that 5-0 vs RBL result might actually hurt us more than helped us. It tricked everyone to think that the diamond works (and hooray we can stuff all our CM/CAM in the lineup !!!) but it worked against RBL because they play a high line and made a lot of mistakes in that match and we capitalized.
Our attack generated nothing vs. Arsenal and Istanbul...our passing not good enough to break through organized packed defense and we play with no width other than from the FBs.

 

What? We're the 5th worst in the league at goals conceded and if you watch some of the goals we've conceded you'd realize our defense has been very, very, very bad. We're shit going forward as well, but make no mistake, our defense is very much bottom half of the league.

 

I should qualify that by saying after the last international break... Yes, we shipped 11 goals the first three league matches; the whole team was awful not just the defense.

After the intl break (just based off memory), we gave up 1 to Newcastle off a deflection, 1 to PSG, 0-0 with Chelsea, clean sheet against RBL, give up 1 PK vs Arsenal. so 3 goals in 5 matches wasn't bad. Yes, Istanbul was an absolute sh!t show but I think defensively we were solid for those 5 games and Maguire and Lindelof had actually played well together.

 

The balance of the team wasn't right in Istanbul. Matic was filling at CB and Henderson at goal. Ole tried to get the wing-backs forward, but that left United woefully exposed at the back and they paid for it.

Ole is a good manager, but he came in as caretaker rather than someone truly expected to lead the club in a visionary way. I don't know if the hiring of Pochettino will do the club any better. If he was coming in to replace Mourinho, I'd have thought yes, but to replace Ole I'm less sure.

If United do plan to replace Ole, I think Deschamps is a better choice. You want to get Pogba to perform, he's your man.

 

I'm done catering to Pogba. He's shown nothing in his time here that suggests he's worth it. He needs to go.

As for Poch, I think he's a better manager than Ole but he won't fix things. As long as our front office remains the same, nothing will change.

 

I’d stick with Ole until the Glazers decide they are done. Let him get United mid table, relegated, promoted, relegated again. This ain’t ending with a coaching change. It’s the ownership and the admin that need to get gone.