If the US Nats had to go into the Gold Cup using only MLS players

Discussion in 'MLS: General' started by lawrenceterp, Mar 22, 2011.

  1. lawrenceterp

    lawrenceterp Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 2, 2006
    Virginia
    Give me your starting 11, your 18 and your 23.
     
  2. SheffWedFan

    SheffWedFan Member

    Dec 23, 2005
    Thousand Oaks, CA
    Club:
    Sheffield Wednesday FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    1 GK Nick Rimando
    2 RB Heath Pearce
    3 CB Jay DeMerit
    4 CB Omar Gonzalez
    5 LB Tim Ream
    6 RM Landon Donovan
    7 CM Jeff Larentowicz
    8 CM Dax McCarty
    9 FW Charlie Davies
    10 FW Chris Wondolowski
    11 LM Davy Arnaud

    GK Kasey Keller
    DF Danny Califf
    DF Sean Franklin
    MF Geoff Cameron
    MF Brad Evans
    FW Juan Agudelo
    FW Kenny Cooper

    GK Kevin Hartman
    DF Nat Borchers
    MF Kyle Beckerman
    MF Robbie Rogers
    FW Teal Bunbury
     
  3. pdid10

    pdid10 Member+

    Aug 8, 2008
    Boulder
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Off the top of my head...

    [LINEUP-4-4-2]Conor Casey, Donovan, Brek Shea, Beckerman, Jeff Larentowicz, Dax McCarty, Heath Pearce, Nat Borchers, Omar Gonzalez, Marvell Wynne, Kevin Hartman[/LINEUP-4-4-2]


    Edit. Maybe DeMerit for Gonzalez
     
  4. mlssoccer26

    mlssoccer26 New Member

    Jun 5, 2010
    New Orleans, USA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    FW: Davies, Agudelo
    CM: Beckerman, McCarty
    RM: Donovan
    LM: Shea
    CB: Demerit, Gonzalez
    RB: Franklin
    LB: Pearce
    GK: Rimando

    Subs: Bunbury, Wondolowski, Davis, Larentowicz, Ream, Borchers, Hartman

    Reserves: Casey, Gaven, Hernandez, Delagarza, Keller
     
  5. lawrenceterp

    lawrenceterp Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 2, 2006
    Virginia
    I thought everyone loved Zach Loyd?
     
  6. StarsAndStripesFan

    Oct 25, 2009
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agudelo, Bunbury
    Donovan, McCarty, Beckerman, Wondo
    Loyd, DeMerit, Ream, Franklin
    Rimando

    Hartman
    Gonzalez
    Pearce
    Larentowicz
    Shea
    Cameron
    Davies

    Johnson
    Davis
    Borchers
    Casey
    Wallace
     
  7. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    Landon Donovan, Frankie Hejduk and 9 other MLS players eligible for the US.

    That starting XI should get the US through the group stage, and then you'd have a well-rested team for the knock-out rounds.
     
  8. StarsAndStripesFan

    Oct 25, 2009
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Has Hejduk retired or just not picked anymore?
     
  9. lawrenceterp

    lawrenceterp Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 2, 2006
    Virginia
    Not sure how you could pick Hejduk at this point.
     
  10. cthomer5000

    cthomer5000 Member+

    Apr 23, 2007
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Ream can't play outside back. He's not known for his pace at CB... would seriously get killed on the outside.

    I say this as a RBNY season ticket holder.
     
  11. arkjayback

    arkjayback Member

    Mar 29, 2008
    Le Mars, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    One thing that jumped out to me going over this list is how vividly MLS reflects the current trends in the USMNT pool as a whole: unprecedented quality and depth in central midfield, a combination of talented young centerbacks and revitalized veteran CBs and a wealth of young forwards, but there continues to be a lack of quality wide players.

    [LINEUP-4-3-3]Juan Agudelo, Teal Bunbury, Landon Donovan, Dax McCarty, Kyle Beckerman, Geoff Cameron, Bobby Convey, Jay Demerit, Omar Gonzalez, Sean Franklin, Nick Rimando[/LINEUP-4-3-3]

    BENCH
    GK Kevin Hartman - aka GK option 1b on this team
    D Heath Pearce
    D Tim Ream - switch out with Gonzalez depending on opponent
    CM Jeff Larentowicz
    LW Robbie Rogers - could start in a 4-4-2 if you trust him enough
    F Charlie Davies - I really wanted to start him, but I'll give it more time
    F Kenny Cooper

    RESERVES - I just can't decide out of this group; they're all deserving, IMO
    GK Sean Johnson
    GK Bill Hamid
    D Michael Harrington
    D Anthony Wallace
    D Ike Opara
    D Chad Marshall
    D Nat Borchers
    CM Sam Cronin
    CM Eric Alexander
    F Chris Wondolowski
     
  12. Mike Gray

    Mike Gray BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 17, 2009
    Los Angeles
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Jay Heaps!

    Oh wait, that already happened.
     
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  13. bettermirror

    bettermirror Member

    Jul 17, 2008
    Fraser Valley
    An MLS-only USA squad would be a good team. it would almost certainly not beat Honduras, Costa Rica, or maybe even Canada.....if those teams were full strength. BUT, it would be great exposure for those MLS players and give Euro guys a needed rest. If Canada had enough strong domestic players I'd be in support of leaving the Euro guys away except for those we'd need to cap.
     
  14. lawrenceterp

    lawrenceterp Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 2, 2006
    Virginia
    arkjayback....you didn't list Zach Loyd either. You even talked about the lack of quality outside players and he's a left back. With the way he did in his call up I thought everyone was excited about him.
     
  15. arkjayback

    arkjayback Member

    Mar 29, 2008
    Le Mars, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From what I remember, there were mixed reviews about him and he may not even start when everyone on FCD's back line is healthy. Heath Pearce was left out of town too, but his veteran experience gives him the edge. When making a roster, I don't think you can have 6 or 7 outside backs. In my mind, picking the outside backs ahead of him:

    Franklin - clearly the front runner
    Convey - time to stop being ignored by Bob
    Pearce - veteran outside back experience (as opposed to Convey's MF experience)
    Harrington - more than deserving of a chance
    Wallace - young up and comer pure LB who could use this valuable experience.

    TBF, Loyd was one of the last names I took off also.
     
  16. cthomer5000

    cthomer5000 Member+

    Apr 23, 2007
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Didn't we actually DO THIS in 2009 though? And we beat everyone except Mexico IIRC.

    If anything, an all-MLS squad in 2011 is probably a little better than our 2009 version was.
     
  17. MRschizoid21

    MRschizoid21 Member

    Nov 5, 2004
    Brooklyn, NY
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    2009 was close enough. A bunch of MLS guys and others with very few caps with Ching and Cherundolo as the anchors.



    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_CONCACAF_Gold_Cup_squads#.C2.A0United_States
     
  18. arkjayback

    arkjayback Member

    Mar 29, 2008
    Le Mars, IA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But Cherundolo did not stay long, neither did Davies and Feilhaber. That squad was losing players left and right to go back to their clubs.

    But you also have to remember, that other teams did not have their A squads either. Still, the US's C squad beat everyone else's B squad except for Mexico, who took the closest thing to a full strength roster of any of the top 6 teams in the tournament.
     
  19. ImissTHEheat

    ImissTHEheat Member

    Jan 18, 2009
    Pennsylvania
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think we do better with the players we have if we bring the width from a 3-5-2. Sufficient CB depth, Pearce and Franklin with decent wide play from the back, and Donovan and maybe Cameron pinching in with Larentowicz in the middle, under Agudelo and Davies (if he continues to improve).

    The problem is the lack of out and out wingers. Without good domestic options in MLS, its hard to play a 4-4-2. What we theoretically should be lethal at with MLS players is set pieces though.
     
  20. lawrenceterp

    lawrenceterp Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 2, 2006
    Virginia
    Do this again after the transfer window and 2/3 of the season under our belt. I see tons of changes that would definitely get made in most of these lineups.
     
  21. lawrenceterp

    lawrenceterp Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 2, 2006
    Virginia
    How is this....

    G Bill Hamid
    LB Bobby Convey
    CB Omar Gonzalez
    CB Tim Ream
    RB Sean Franklin
    CDM Kyle Beckerman
    LW Brek Shea
    RW Freddy Adu
    CAM Nick LaBrocca
    F Landon Donovan
    F Juan Agudelo

    G Nick Rimando
    LB Heath Pearce
    CB Chad Marshall
    CB George John
    CDM Geoff Cameron
    LW Robbie Rogers
    F Teal Bunbury

    G Tally Hall
    LB Corey Ashe
    LW Brad Davis
    CAM Benny Feilhaber
    F Charlie Davies
     
  22. holiday

    holiday Member+

    Oct 16, 2007
    franklin is fine. but with the rest you'll be picking the ball out of your net a lot. imo your backup cb's are more solid.
    as long as you're not going with a vet, i'd give kennedy a look in goal.
    i'm not sure la brocca makes it all the way to the starting lineup, and i wouldn't include davies.
    looking over the pre-season lists, it jumps out how many people had picked mc carty.
     
  23. TrueCrew

    TrueCrew Member+

    Dec 22, 2003
    Columbus, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, this is certainly getting easier as it goes along:

    --------------Hartman-------------
    Loyd---DeMerit---Marshall---Pearce
    -------------Beckerman------------
    Rogers-------Feilhaber------Shea
    ------Agudelo-------Donovan------

    2nd Unit:

    ------------Rimando----------
    Franklin--John--Cameron--Convey
    -----------Larentowicz----------
    Jewsbury----Davis------Pontius
    -------------Adu-------------
    ------------Casey------------

    Rest of 23 Man Roster:
    GK: Rimando
    GK: Hamid
    RB/RM: Franklin
    LB/LM: Convey
    CB: John
    M/D: Cameron
    M: Larentowicz (or even Mastroeni)
    M: Jewsbury
    LM/CAM: Davis
    M/F: Adu
    M/F: Pontiuns
    F: Casey

    A lack of speed off the bench worries me, but I can't think of anyone else to put in in MF.

    Just missed: Hall, Gonzalez, Ream, Wynne, Ihemelu, S. Williams, LaBrocca, Davies, Wondo, Bruan.
     
  24. Seaball

    Seaball Member+

    Oct 12, 2008
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    -------------Rimando-------------
    Convey--Marshall-Gonzalez--Wynne
    -------------Cameron------------
    Shea--Pontius--Feilhaber--Donavan
    -------------Agudelo--------------

    In the 18
    GK-Hartman
    DF-Pearce, John
    MF-Davis, Rogers, Beckerman
    FW- Casey

    Reserves
    GK-Hamid
    DF-Ream
    MF-LaBrocca, Wondo
    FW-Bunbury

    -I decided to go with more attacking midfielders rather then defensive. My boys are going after the meaningless flair points. With a little more time I think Adu would find his way into my squad.
    -I'm not too high on our pool of true strikers. Bunbury hasn't had that good of a season and yet he made it on my team.
    -Yeah I know I put Wynne at right back...don't judge me.
     

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