I guess Gazza's not coming anytime soon. (Washington Post)

Discussion in 'D.C. United' started by 1MADDOG, Jul 30, 2002.

  1. 1MADDOG

    1MADDOG New Member

    Aug 15, 2000
  2. Jose L. Couso

    Jose L. Couso New Member

    Jul 31, 2000
    Arlington, VA
    Surprising turn of events to say the least!

    I guess Andy convinced the Crew GM not to trade the discovery player slot.
  3. CHICO13

    CHICO13 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Oct 4, 2001
    SECTION 135
    The Strongest La Paz
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    I still think he'll be wearing a United kit by Aug. 10 :)
  4. ONE

    ONE Member

    Aug 11, 2000
    this really should be a no-brainer. gazza is good enough to play in the league. he's definately good enough to play for us (seeing as how this season is shaping up). i want to know what these "remaining question marks" are.
  5. shawn12011

    shawn12011 Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Reisterstown, MD
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Garber and the league's image, I'll bet..........remember that MLS front office have been the one's most against this deal.
  6. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 29, 2000
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe someone had second thoughts after he was seen downing shots the other night.

    I know I did and I'm not the one who would have to sign his paycheck.
  7. Topo

    Topo Member

    Feb 15, 2001
    At this point, DC could use almost anybody willing to take a shot...
  8. GoDC

    GoDC Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Hamilton, VA
  9. AndrewGK

    AndrewGK New Member

    Apr 12, 1999
    Dublin, Ohio, USA

    Or maybe the Crew braintrust realizes how stupid it is to deliberately upgrade a rival team in your own division, in exchange for someone who wasn't playing for you anyways.
    Addition by subtraction? ;)
  10. doctorjim

    doctorjim New Member

    Jul 22, 2002
    Sounded like Hudson and company are looking for a graceful way to back away from the whole idea.
  11. Z010 Union

    Z010 Union Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    He's fit
    He's a legend
    He seems committed
    He's added international media attention
    Most fans want him to come now
    He still enjoys a drink with his friends

    Positives clearly outweigh the negatives of this deal. I would be disappointed if we did not sign him at this point.
  12. shawn12011

    shawn12011 Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Reisterstown, MD
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I can move on at this point as well. With or with out Gazza.
  13. mkpage

    mkpage Member

    Jun 9, 1999
    Alexandria, VA
    These comments don't surprise me.

    Just two weeks ago, the papers were saying a deal was definitely off. Word out of MLS headquarters seemed to suggest communication between the two parties had ended. Then lo and behold, Gazza is actually in DC training with United.

    Given that this weekend is a wash because of the All-Star game, I still believe we'll see Gazza in a United kit come Aug. 10.
  14. saroccer

    saroccer New Member

    Jul 19, 2002
    the remaining question marks are his off-field personality/alcoholism. I am for him coming to DCU but only if he can get his drinking under control. According to the other threads which report him drinking (and yes, I realize that I'm going on 2nd-3rd hand information - but that's all we have right now), he's not in control.

    i am all for him having a second chance in the U.S. but the MLS/DCU can't really afford to take care of Gazza. We aren't the NBA and are still struggling to fit in the American sport arena. We can't handle an Alan Iverson. That said, I hope he gets his problems under control and helps DCU win!
  15. DCU

    DCU Member

    Feb 15, 1999
    Bay Area, CA
    I too have to wonder how much of an impact Gazza doing shots had. He's an alcoholic...and he was drinking (shots or beer, whatever...doesn't matter too much). It's just not the behavior you want to see if you're looking for signs that he's going to walk the straight, narrow, and sober path.
  16. Rodan

    Rodan New Member

    Feb 16, 1999
    Eeerily reminiscent of the posturing (mostly by Bob Bradley) that went on immediately before Hristo Stoitchkov entered the league. The deal was pretty much signed, sealed, and delivered, but no MLS team (sensing that they could make a meal of the situation) was willing to pony up the farcical "allocation" needed officially to make the deal happen. Suddenly Bobby B. started claiming that he had other fish to fry, that he wasn't going to gut the team for an acquisition, and that the deal just might not go through.

    If history is any kind of teacher (and if Gazza is in any kind of shape), I'd think that Gazza will play for DC this year.
  17. GersMan

    GersMan Member

    May 11, 2000
    The snag is how much his signing bonus will be (with the other issues mitigating opinions about how much it should be). He's going to take the minimum salary, but the bonus will be the makeup.
  18. Th4119

    Th4119 Member

    Jul 26, 2001
    Annandale, VA
    We had 18 shots last game, not including about 4-6 others that were blocked. We took the shots, they were unlucky not to have any go in. I think about 11 or 12 of our shots were on goal, a great ratio. Brown made some sweet saves and we had a Villegas goal called back. We shoot as often as we need to but we could use a few more.
  19. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 29, 2000
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    The signing bonus doesn't count against our salary cap does it?
  20. Pyro

    Pyro Member

    Apr 18, 2000
    Fulton River District
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm not sure who to believe on this one, but the Chicago Sun Times reported that Gazza's contract is set and the league is just waiting on his work permit and for United to drop a player from thier roster. (Buried at the bottom of the page)

  21. BudWiser

    BudWiser New Member

    Jul 17, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
    I'm against his signing at this point. Not strongly, but against it

    Is this the kind of guy you'd want on your team?:

    -Drinking shots with the coach standing next to him
    -Negotiating over a signing bonus
    -Not making a road trip w/the team as requested by the coach, instead attending to "personal issues" (whatever that is) by going back to England
    -Lack of respect behavior in the past like squeezing a guy's nuts, pulling a teammate's shorts down in practice, pissing on a teammate while he's sleeping...

    Like I said before, nobody cares about him here. Nobody's going to massage his ego. He's not going to have slutty women throwing themselves at him, he's not going to be able to go to the best parties in town, all that stuff that some celebrities crave and feel a need for

    For some the privacy and ability to be humble is a blessing. Like when Klinsmann said "I went to Disneyworld nobody recognized me!" and loved it

    If he shows some character, I'll change my mind about him
  22. shawn12011

    shawn12011 Member+

    Jun 15, 2001
    Reisterstown, MD
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I am still on the fence, as I was at the start of this. However each of the items on your list are unconfirmed, at this point. So it maybe nothing or it may mean something, his going back to England.
  23. Virginian

    Virginian Member

    Sep 23, 1999
    Denver, Co
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He's over 21 isn't he? If the coach had a problem with it than why didn't he ask him not to do it?
    He's had a storied career. He's earned a signing bonus. Especially considering all the publicity he's brought DCU and MLS already.
    This is a bargaining tactic. No different than an NFL holdout.
    The Nut squeeze incident was actually another player squeezing his nuts...
  24. John_Harkes_6

    John_Harkes_6 New Member

    Mar 29, 2000
    Baltimore, MD.

  25. GersMan

    GersMan Member

    May 11, 2000
    My understanding Barb is that it does not. Apparently the league have some concern about paying this.

    The Sun-Times says the deal has been agreed, but Goff today said Gazza plans to "speak with his agent about his prospects with United." What would be to discuss if the deal was agreed?

    Still wondering about the following from Goff:

    "...said Hudson, who said the decision had become far more difficult than he anticipated but that he hoped to give Gascoigne the final word by next Monday."

    wondering what changed (and have a hard time believing it is the player taking drinks next to him.

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