How Do You Replace a Legend? - The Transfers, Rumors & Lies Thread

4x4s · Feb 24, 2024

J-Mezzy said: ↑

Eh

I was in the military in deployment for long period of times with the same people and @YOUNGSTARS87 was a profesional sports.

Camaraderie is not new to us and trust that we’ve been around these settings more than most. I’m also Colombian and well aware of that culture, we grow up taking shots at each other. All jokes are at the expense on one another and the first thing to come to mind is how to make fun of another. Sounds great and all, but it creates chip on shoulders personalities and insecurities. It makes my people less likable to be honest. I’m a proud Colombian but I’ve never been the type
To seek hang with Colombian people all the time.

You could tell Mbappe was uncomfortable and insecure. The first joke is fine. When the joke is organic is fine, happened in the moment, it came, everyone laughed.

but buying masks, recording reactions, laughing loudly and obnoxiously, all to ridicule a dude based on his appearance and you may think it’s fun but he definitely didn’t like it.

Also, the French team is a talented team, but known for their great atmosphere they are not lol. No other soccer team has had as much drama and issues as the French national team so maybe that laughing at the expense of others mentality is not quite working out
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I know that coaches nurture those pranks to fuel competitiveness inside the camp. I hate that. You're giving young people PTSD just underthe assumption that it makes them better at a game. It's ridiculous.

J-Mezzy · Feb 24, 2024

YOUNGSTARS87 said: ↑

Don't mind him, he thinks it's a thing of pride to say the culture of his country is to pick on people in weaker positions then you.. as if that is a redeeming factor.

He doesn't even understand his audience as many here are at least exposed to American sports where there are pranks, hazing, jokes, etc... however if you aren't an animal you know you can cross a line. When a team doesn't have a leadership structure to control these behaviors you get that nonsense we just saw (you can imagine how much it was because they didn't record or show all the instances!)

That shit is weak and show lack of confidence and character... it also breeds this shit and it's why Mbappe seems to be a shithead just like the people who taught him.

That French poster is such a lost cause. He is so blinded in his nationalism he can't even see the correlation between events like those that show poor leadership and the success that team has failed to achieve due to the lack of just that. I even made it simple for people using Jude as an example.

I'm sure your example of the French team's failures will go right over his head.

Anyways, people who hide poor treatment of others behind "culture"... and to expand show/enable/defend racism or prejudice, etc behind "culture" or "tradition" are the worst.
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The team is literally haunted by scandals, drama, and under performance. The dude really tried to use them as the example of great environment due to hazing

Nathanial Essex · Feb 24, 2024

Hendrix22 said: ↑

What is weird about Osimhen (apart from the fact that people are somehow incurably unable to spell his name properly despite literally having seven letters) is that somehow he is not considered a worldclass player around here. I just don't get it. He has everything in his bag for an off ball running type of pressing finisher forward. Supreme athleticism, rocket of a shot, best header in the world. How can someone go gaga over Haaland and then not rate Osimhen is a complete mystery to me. But but but he doesn't have a perfect touch. How is that relevent, he doesn't have to have perfect touch for the type of player he is. Haaland is nothing to write home about technically either, in fact I'd say Osimhen is better when it comes to link up and skills. He's got 90 percent of Haaland's speed and strength, so its this ten percent that hes lacking in comparison to Haaland that make people here talk about him like hes a scrub? Despite being faster and stronger than anyone else out there?

Kindly, gtfo with that shit.

If Florentino was as cutthroat of a dealer as hes made out to be here, he would have sold Vinicius for a record price, eliminating the constant noise around him that has become a distraction, and then buy Osimhen so that Mbappe plays on his natural position on the left and Victor just quadruples Joselu's output with all the service he would get in the box. Thats the cruel but rational decision that would be for the good of the club. But the fact that Florentino crawls back over and over to Mbappe's toxic ass is proof that he isn't that. Florentino's ways include both sucking up to the Mbappe moneygrabbing entourage, and being loyal to guys like Vinicius. Thats who he is and I am happy with that.

And for the record, I'm not saying that I would swap Vini for Osimhen even on a profit; I am attached to the kid as much as the next guy and willing to take the bad with the good with him just like with Florentino. What annoys me is that the same people who are apparently too proud to stoop down to someone as apparently shit as Osimhen are at the same time super happy to swallow the humiliation Mbappe has served this club for years, as if it doesn't mean anything as long as we get him at whatever point and squeeze whatever amount of years he has left after not coming when he was supposed to (and when he promised to). Well history and legacy means something to me and I'm not going to apologize for it. And part of Mbappe's legacy with Madrid is always going to be his shitting on the club.

Honestly Osimhen would be a greater legend for Madrid than Mbappe would simply due to the fact that he doesn't have the baggage of being a douchebag and a snake towards the club. I have zero doubt that the Nigerian would score a bucket load of goals here as well the same way Mbappe would.
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Bro, it's just sensible not to spend a record sum on a player who has had one good season. People were going gaga over Haaland because he was basically scoring a goal a game, and very good goals as well. Osimhen is NOT doing that.

There are so many players that have a single good season and nothing much after. Osimhen isn't putting up the same numbers as Haaland and that's all there is to it. Also, wouldn't be surprised if he moved to a different league and ended up largely being a flop.

I'm not one of those who go through people's post history to call them out, but I'm near sure you were probably saying a similar thing about Balotelli.

J-Mezzy · Feb 24, 2024

Nathanial Essex said: ↑

Bro, it's just sensible not to spend a record sum on a player who has had one good season. People were going gaga over Haaland because he was basically scoring a goal a game, and very good goals as well. Osimhen is NOT doing that.

There are so many players that have a single good season and nothing much after. Haaland isn't putting up the same numbers as Haaland and that's all there is to it. Also, wouldn't be surprised if he moved to a different league and ended up largely being a flop.

I'm not one of those who go through people's post history to call them out, but I'm near sure you were probably saying a similar thing about Balotelli.
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Also

serie a scares me a bit. We’ve seen some mediocre players score 25+ goals there. Some of them old and past their prime too

Anon. · Feb 24, 2024

4x4s said: ↑

I think negotiations should be straight forward here.
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So, do you think he's leaving Bayern and signing for Real Madrid, as you previously believed that this wasn't a viable move for all of the parties involved.

INST · Feb 24, 2024

MiamiNative0722 said: ↑

⚪️🆕⚪️ News #Davies: There has been a meeting in Munich in recent days between Christoph Freund and Davies‘ agent Nick Huoseh. The focus was mainly on Davies' future, which is more open than ever!

⚠️Personal terms between @realmadrid and Davies are not an issue. Real, willing… pic.twitter.com/Ub98bvjaIG
— Florian Plettenberg (@Plettigoal) February 23, 2024

It's being reported now that Bayern expect Davies to leave rather than extending
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Yes please. Would add a lot to our attack and rapid pace at the back. Hope we get it done and it works out for us.

YOUNGSTARS87 · Feb 24, 2024

J-Mezzy said: ↑

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serie a scares me a bit. We’ve seen some mediocre players score 25+ goals there. Some of them old and past their prime too
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I don't think Oshimen necessarily has to be a flop. He could be a good or even very good striker but that isn't what we are looking for especially at that price tag.

We want a worldbeater.

russian hattie · Feb 24, 2024

lecannois said: ↑

Wow. I come here to read this nonsense about the prank on the bus with the Donatello mask. That is French humor... it's called "chambrer". Everyone does it to others and it's completely fine and taken with a laugh. You just dish it back. Those who can't take a joke are the ones in trouble because you will then get ostracized.

Mbappe has dished it and taken it everywhere. For example, his best friends on the team are Dembele and Hakimi... just a few months ago they asked him how Dembele was doing with Dembele standing next to him. His response: "Great until he gets near the goal. He seems to get a stroke every time he has a chance to shoot. We're lucky he's alive and functioning today with the number of strokes he's had in his career so far." Dembele was dying laughing as he listened. His comeback was: "It's like you trying to make a pass."

Another example: any new player that comes on France NT has to stand up during the first meal at the gathering and sing his favorite song to the team. He gets "chambrer" mercilessly as he does... and everyone laughs. It's good fun.

French culture is extremely different from American culture. The humor is highly sarcastic and everyone knows how to take a joke when it's meant as a joke. People make fun of everyone and everything. The most popular shows in the history of French TV are satires for a reason ("Les Guignoles" for example). You have newspapers and cartoons that are 100% satires. People aren't looking to be offended.

I'm completely sure that the only thing on Mbappe's mind with the Donatello mask prank is how to get the guys back with a prank of his own.

Here's another one: https://video.lefigaro.fr/figaro/vi...aul-pogba-et-antoine-griezmann/5807091195001/

During World Cup 2018, everyone made fun of everyone on the France team and the media talked about how great the atmosphere was. Why? Because it's a sign of affection in France as long as everyone is laughing. Pogba and Griezmann were all over Mbappe per the article above.

If you can't take this kind of humor, you shouldn't live or visit France. It's cultural. If you're not making fun of each other, that's when you need to worry in France. It means something is wrong lol.
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Might be the most long winded description of “banter” I’ve ever seen

gladiator guti · Feb 24, 2024

laundromat said: ↑

I’ve been lurking this forum for a decade. Great toilet material.

Something that has always stuck out to me were the serial dissidents. Great discussions to be had when the dissidents themselves are engaging in good faith. e.g., Seoul Villain re: Vinicius, Digital re: Bale, etc, (shoutout to Hendrix22 who is the model dissident).

I don’t get the same feeling at all with hector. He’s just irritating. He really is probably just some bored guy pretending to be mentally ill.

The worst of it is that I put him on ignore on advice from a mod, but after having read this thread, it’s obvious that I can’t escape him. Run from it, dread it, hector is still trolling.

He won.
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Bale is a good man.

4x4s · Feb 24, 2024

Anon. said: ↑

So, do you think he's leaving Bayern and signing for Real Madrid, as you previously believed that this wasn't a viable move for all of the parties involved.
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He needs to decide what he wants, for how long.

It shouldn't be complicated. Does he want to extend his contract? Yes or no? If it's a matter of price, what is his price?

He can be completely transparent, we'll need time to negotiate with his club. Can't drag this does she love me does she not throughout the summer.

MiamiNative0722 · Feb 24, 2024

4x4s said: ↑

He needs to decide what he wants, for how long.

It shouldn't be complicated. Does he want to extend his contract? Yes or no? If it's a matter of price, what is his price?

He can be completely transparent, we'll need time to negotiate with his club. Can't drag this does she love me does she not throughout the summer.
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Almost every indication that has come out from his camp since last summer has been that he wants to come and isn’t planning to renew. What is he dragging?

Almost every indication from our end as well has been that we won’t have a problem coming to terms with him. It’s just been a matter of waiting until Bayern accept that they’re going to lose him.

4x4s · Feb 24, 2024

MiamiNative0722 said: ↑

Almost every indication that has come out from his camp since last summer has been that he wants to come and isn’t planning to renew. What is he dragging?

Almost every indication from our end as well has been that we won’t have a problem coming to terms with him. It’s just been a matter of waiting until Bayern accept that they’re going to lose him.
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Yeah, this reminds me of the Gnabry saga where they came to blows in front of the press and eventually he extended his contract.

I don't see what's there for him to negotiate if he doesn't want to stay there.

lecannois · Feb 24, 2024

YOUNGSTARS87 said: ↑

Don't mind him, he thinks it's a thing of pride to say the culture of his country is to pick on people in weaker positions then you.. as if that is a redeeming factor.

He doesn't even understand his audience as many here are at least exposed to American sports where there are pranks, hazing, jokes, etc... however if you aren't an animal you know you can cross a line. When a team doesn't have a leadership structure to control these behaviors you get that nonsense we just saw (you can imagine how much it was because they didn't record or show all the instances!)

That shit is weak and show lack of confidence and character... it also breeds this shit and it's why Mbappe seems to be a shithead just like the people who taught him.

That French poster is such a lost cause. He is so blinded in his nationalism he can't even see the correlation between events like those that show poor leadership and the success that team has failed to achieve due to the lack of just that. I even made it simple for people using Jude as an example.

I'm sure your example of the French team's failures will go right over his head.

Anyways, people who hide poor treatment of others behind "culture"... and to expand show/enable/defend racism or prejudice, etc behind "culture" or "tradition" are the worst.
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Keep your pussified culture and mentality to yourself. That’s the short version. “Banter” is part of ours.

J-Mezzy · Feb 24, 2024

I don’t know

but I don’t think anyone thinks tough guys when they are thinking about the French

4x4s · Feb 24, 2024

lecannois said: ↑

Keep your pussified culture and mentality to yourself. That’s the short version. “Banter” is part of ours.
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PSG is full of foreign players, hard to say that's your culture there

4x4s · Feb 24, 2024

J-Mezzy said: ↑

I don’t know

but I don’t think anyone thinks tough guys when they are thinking about the French
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Worst hooligans from the bigger European countries.

Pretty strange to see Somebody think that's cool though.

Zidane05 · Feb 24, 2024

hector_br said: ↑

I like how I always keep getting a reaction from this unfunny shit. I'll keep doing it.
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People always line up to see the clown.

Zidane05 · Feb 24, 2024

russian hattie said: ↑

Who is actually saying that though?
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Literally all made up in his head.

4x4s · Feb 24, 2024

Zidane05 said: ↑

Literally all made up in his head.
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Yup, people definitely are absolutely fair and unbiased here.

Zidane05 · Feb 24, 2024

4x4s said: ↑

Yup, people definitely are absolutely fair and unbiased here.
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See how you have these stories in your head that you jump to? Ain't no one saying getting Mbappe is some sort of coupe, and in fact, the vast majority of the forum was critical of our continued pursuit. But you're living in some sort of fantasy where only you is fair and unbiased and everyone else is a homer.

4x4s · Feb 24, 2024

Zidane05 said: ↑

See how you have these stories in your head that you jump to? Ain't no one saying getting Mbappe is some sort of coupe, and in fact, the vast majority of the forum was critical of our continued pursuit. But you're living in some sort of fantasy where only you is fair and unbiased and everyone else is a homer.
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Please quote the post where I said people here think getting Mbappe is a coupe.

AppleBob86 · Feb 24, 2024

I love Mbappe and I know he’ll lead us to multiple titles and win us games on his own in some scenarios.

However it’s been a long pursuit by the club and we’ve given Ancelotti a headache in not giving him the equipment he wanted in the summers gone.

Will it be worth it? I believe so.

4x4s · Feb 24, 2024

If Mbappe doesn't join us this time he's done more damage to this club than any Barca team or president ever could. They should have a statue built for him.

AppleBob86 · Feb 24, 2024

4x4s said: ↑

If Mbappe doesn't join us this time he's done more damage to this club than any Barca team or president ever could. They should have a statue built for him.
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Not really. We’ve won multiple CL’s even when “pursuing” him while Barca are getting KO’d in the last 16 for multiple years.

Not to mention their own debt and them being found to have paid off referees.

Not sure what damage you mean?

Nir_O · Feb 24, 2024

4x4s said: ↑

If Mbappe doesn't join us this time he's done more damage to this club than any Barca team or president ever could. They should have a statue built for him.
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There’s plenty of time till end of the season and prepare. Fabrizio Romano said the Mbappe-Saga it’s in the ending phase and only small details remain. I believe the “Here we go” of signed documents will be very soon.