How come MLS Live keeps blocking DC United games?

Discussion in 'D.C. United' started by yabo, Apr 14, 2012.

  1. yabo

    yabo Member+

    Jun 1, 2000
    Poolesville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    How can I find out which games are going to be available? I'm getting my media via Roku. Thanks.
     
  2. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
  3. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unsurpassed!
     
  4. Lowecifer

    Lowecifer Member+

    Jan 11, 2000
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    I was able to watch the game on Dish Network. It was on an alternate sports channel... I think it was the slot reserved for Altitude network. Was it blacked out everywhere in DC?
     
  5. MagpieFan

    MagpieFan Member+

    Apr 25, 2004
    Back in DC
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Narp. Saw it on Fios CSN+ channel in HD here in TKPK. Sounds like it was a Virginia area non Comcast dealie where they bounced it to another channel and forgot to tell people.
     
  6. yabo

    yabo Member+

    Jun 1, 2000
    Poolesville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks for the blackout listing, but why would a game stream of a match played in NE be blacked out in DC? This is DC content.
     
  7. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    Because the game is on local/regional tv in this market (on CSN or CSN+). The DC at NE game was initially planned for CSN, but got bumped to CSN+ given other content on CSN that afternoon.

    CSN has a contract with United and wants the local viewers watching their channel(s), not siphoned off by the league-wide out-of-market packages (DK on tv and/or MLSlive online).
     
  8. yabo

    yabo Member+

    Jun 1, 2000
    Poolesville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Appreciate the enlightenment...
     
  9. butlerana

    butlerana New Member

    Dec 26, 2011
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  10. DC_United_4_Me

    Dec 5, 2011
    Club:
    DC United
    I wonder if the league pressures DC United to accept tighter black-out rules from CSN? Due to the current stadium situation, if I were "The Don," I believe I would say something to the effect, "Either keep attendence figures at a specific high level, or move." Using black-outs does work to pump up attentendences over time.
     
  11. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    100% Disagree.

    If it's an away game, the blackout's only purpose is to not give free time to the broadcaster's advertisers, who may be competitors to MLS' advertisers.

    For a home game, the blackout may get a few more people into the stadium but at the cost of muting the brand locally.

    At all times blackouts make the team less relevant. I'm not necessarily referring to just DC here (who's main attendance issue is being bad for all but a couple of the last 12 years.)
     
  12. pr0ner

    pr0ner Member+

    Jan 13, 2007
    Alexandria, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's not entirely correct. MLS Live or Direct Kick blackout rules are determined by MLS, not the local channels.

    In this case, the following rule applies:

    If DC United game is moved to CSN+, and you're in CSN's region but don't get CSN+, you get blacked out. MLS rule, not CSN's.
     
  13. 6 ft. Leprechaun

    Dec 9, 2003
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Agreed. I bought the Direct Kick package last year just to watch DC games since I can't make it in person anymore. I was blacked out for the majority of the games b/c I was within the 70 mile "viewing radius". My cable company didn't offer any channel where I could view the games (i.e. CSN). I didn't get the package this year b/c of these issues. The net result is that I can't follow the team that I've been following since '96 unless I find some sort of live stream every now and then.
     
  14. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    but I do believe the "MLS rules" vary by market.

    some regional/local partners do not require that all (or some) of their MLS local games be blacked out on MLS Live or Direct Kick.

    DC United (as the local MLS franchise) has the local deal with ComcastSportsNet Washington. As part of that specific/local deal, CSN likely requires that their games not be made available in the national subscription packages from MLS. (and again, I do not think all local-broadcaster/team deals around the league have identical clauses and blackout restrictions wrt to DK and MLSLive.)

    This link (assuming all of the blackout listings are correct) is updated weekly by the league, and there look to be teams/markets that do not have their local/regional broadcasts blacked out (locally) on DK and MLSLive.

    http://www.mlssoccer.com/weekly-tv-listings

    Here are some of the MLS tv listings from this past weekend (and I've ignored some of the matches involving Canadian teams as there are different broadcast, national/local, and blackout rules that apply to those "international" matches) --

    Saturday, April 14
    New England vs. D.C. United 4 pm ET
    Direct Kick (USA), Blackout: DC
    CSNNE (NE)
    CSNMA (DC)
    MLS Live, Blackout: DC

    Seattle vs. Colorado 4 pm ET
    Direct Kick (USA), Blackout: SEA, COL
    KONG (SEA)
    ALTITUDE (COL)
    MLS Live, Blackout: SEA, COL

    New York vs. San Jose 7 pm ET
    Direct Kick (USA), Blackout: NY
    MSG Plus (NY)
    CSNCA PLUS (SJ)
    MLS Live, Blackout: NY

    Kansas City vs. Salt Lake 8:30 pm ET
    Direct Kick (USA), no blackouts listed
    KSMO (KC)
    KTVX-ABC4 (RSL)
    MLS Live, no blackouts listed

    LA vs. Portland 10:30 pm ET
    Direct Kick (USA), Blackout: POR
    KDOC/KWHY (LA)
    KPDX (POR)
    MLS Live, Blackout: POR​

    So it appears that NE, SJ, KC, RSL and LA (those teams and markets) did not look to have local blackouts on DK and MLSLive even though those games were broadcast by a local/regional market tv provider/partner. (this assumes that MLS's link and info is accurate, but I do not believe that DCUnited/CSNWashington's local deal has identical clauses/requirements as are found elsewhere in other MLS markets, with respect to DK and MLSLive.)
     
  15. tab5g

    tab5g Member+

    May 17, 2002
    it's an unfortunate situation. but that is really your cable company's issue, and as a consumer, you could ditch cable and subscribe to a satellite package that offers CSN/CSN+.
     

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