HFC Haarlem..

Discussion in 'The Netherlands' started by bsp, Jan 27, 2010.

  1. bsp

    bsp Member

    Oct 30, 1999
    My Dutch friends in Haarlem tell me that the perennial Eerste Divisie club is no more... With the financial demise of AZ earlier in the season, and now Haarlem, what does this tell us about the state of Dutch football, especially in the north of the country. Sad indeed, the club of Ruud Gullit and Kick Smit, where football has been played since 1889 is gone...
     
  2. johan neeskens

    Jan 14, 2004
    It's sad because it's one of our oldest clubs, then again it's not sad because even they themselves admitted that it's thanks to their own bad financial management (hoping for a new stadium and not having a plan B when that fell through).

    Eight second division sides are currently under the financial supervision of the Dutch FA. What that means in actual practise is that from the moment they are placed under supervision, they have three years to get out of debt, and if they don't it's bye bye to them. Feyenoord has been under supervision for almost two years now and as such has little over a year to get out of debt, the situation is pretty desperate now over there. I think the other eredivisie side in similar trouble is Willem II.
     
  3. BTV802

    BTV802 BigSoccer Supporter

    AFC Ajax
    Jul 11, 2006
    Vermont
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Do they get to play out there second division schedule?
     
  4. FCGrunn

    FCGrunn Member

    Oct 30, 2007
    Groningen
    Club:
    FC Groningen
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    and Roda of course...

    http://www.elfvoetbal.nl/nieuws/97371_gemeente-kerkrade-voorkomt-faillissement-roda-jc
     
  5. Orange14

    Orange14 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Apr 27, 2007
    Bethesda, MD
    Club:
    AFC Ajax
    Nat'l Team:
    Netherlands
    No, Haarlem is finished. Ajax had five players on loan, all of whom have come back to the parent club. The financial crisis is not unique to Dutch clubs; there are teams with huge debts in many of the other leagues as well. As far as I've been able to figure things out, Bundesliga teams appear to generally be on the soundest financial footing.
     
  6. johan neeskens

    Jan 14, 2004
  7. johan neeskens

    Jan 14, 2004
    A football club is not allowed to be in debt for a prolonged period of time, that's the thing in both the NL and Germany. Which is why we don't get clubs over here who are consistently 200 million in debt and nobody cares, like you get in Spain and England. Haarlem was 2 million in debt. That's about 1% of Real Madrid's perennial debt probably!
     
  8. Jamooky

    Jamooky Member+

    Mar 24, 2006
    Cleveland, OH USA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I don't mean to hijack the thread, but what has ever come of the prospective merger of the Limburg Clubs? Is that ever going to happen or has it been shelved?
     
  9. Nacional Tijuana

    Nacional Tijuana BigSoccer Supporter

    May 6, 2003
    San Diego, Calif.
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I just checked, and apparently there is a new fused club called Haarlem Kennemerland, but as of the writing, it was unclear what division they would play in. Not sure if the fusion actually stalled.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haarlem_Kennemerland

    Anybody know?
     
  10. he so scrumptiouz

    Jun 1, 2006
    amsterdam
    fusion has not been stalled

    http://www.hfckennemerland.nl/

    haarlem-kennemerland's 1st team will play in the

    eredivisie > 1e divisie > topklasse > hoofdklasse > 1e klasse > 2e klasse > .. > 7e klasse
     

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