Rumor: Have I Heard:Dinho's Dead???...

Congrats for publically admitting to your use of the ignorance list.

By position or overall?

 

overall, and that's 25, not 250

 

Zidane can easily be put in the top 10 in the past 15 years and top 10 in his position of all time. IMO

 

Not really. Messi is not that much loved in Argentina. He has a far better reputation everywhere else but in Argentina.

 

Your title is disturbing... For some time, I really thought he was gone.

This said, I find it far fetched to expect him to make a big impact at WC 2010. He's one of my favorite players, but age is starting to show, and he's also not so hardworking (to say the least). I wouldn't entrust him a talented team like Brazil's, specially with the younger players you have.

 

I too have seen just about all of Milan's games this year, and Ronaldinho's mobility is increasing every game. He nearly looked like the old terror in the second half against Palermo. He's obviously not back yet, but its funny that people doubt the leading scorer of a team second in Serie A.

You also have to factor in the relative health of Milan as well, because they're still figuring out the team's look and tactics. For example; Milan is somehow undefeated when Pirlo is not playing and winless when he is. The simple fact is that Milan is not clicking on all cylinders yet Ronaldinho is their leading scorer by far.

At his current rate, he will be about 85% of the 2005-06 Ronaldinho when he rejoins Brazil next year. Definitely not dead.

 

Great post- exactly right. Most Juve fans like myself did not weep when he was sold to Real Madrid because of all the annual, overrated choking that Zidane did in the Champions League with some of the best teams in Juve's history. Real would have won much more if they got Makelele some of that PR!

 

My take..
I agree Ronaldinho seems to have lost that burst of pace and loses the ball more than before, but we are comparing him to the old ronaldinho which imo was one of the most talented, dominating players ever at his peak (and i dont believe that is an exaggeration). If he is compared to his peers, he is currently on par with the best of serie a. He will never regain his old form, but he is talented enough and technically superior enough to be an integral part of any squad. He is different from a CRonaldo because he has always had the vision, so now when his burst of pace is diminishing, he can focus on being the playmaker.

 

The only difference I see is that he is more comfortable playing for Milan because they play a slower game than that of Barcelona so instead of looking lost he is able to contribute more to the team. The same would not be true of Brazil and unless he gets his fitness back then he will again be a passenger.

 

Sort of like Messi is the better overall player (by a fair distance) in the world right now....despite Crynaldo being considered the "best" around? Are you not the same one who felt like van der sar was the best keeper at euro 08? Oh yeah, you were.

 

Waaaay too early to say that. Often players get reinvigorated when they change leagues. Lets see how well he sustains this level.

Remember it also helps that he's playing in a weaker league now. This fact needs to be considered as well.

 

Incorrect, Barca had a mixture of fast, direct players and slower paced ball distributors with xavi, iniesta, deco so they didnt need another one, with brazil you dont have too many that play the slower, creative role so he can fit into that system well.

 

Not like that at all. What you posted above is also factually incorrect. You haters need to get a life.

In midfield you can afford to have slower players that can retain the ball and dictate the tempo. Barcelona use that in combination with the speed and movement they have up front to hurt teams. What you cannot have is a slow player who struggles to link up with his fellow attacking players and that is the problem Ronaldinho faced. He does not face that problem at Milan because their entire team, in general, is slower and he plays in a more possession based league. Unless he changes his position to play further back and take less of a leading role in the attack then he will continue to be a hindrance for Brazil. Notably when they have better players to play further forward and better players to sit back and dictate. There is simply no place for him for Brazil just like there was no place for him at any of the elite sides bar Milan, which is why the move was good. They can coexist.