Your people are hungry, lack medicine, and would like to see you swing from the nearest lamp post. Viva la revolution. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A10316-2002Aug12.html
I don't think Batistia's supporters in Miami would let Dubya free Cuba. We all know how annoying they can be when they cry about not getting their way.
Wasn't Cuba almost a colony of the USA pre-Castro, or a resort for the more corrupt Hispanics, and the Mafia ?. Cuba may have been a better place if the USA weren't so childish (for want of a better phrase) by putting the sanctions after their unpopular puppet was toppled. Obviously, this view will be rejected by the more right-wing of you guys over there. I wonder if Fidel will get a Manic Street Preachers CD for his birthday (which he shares with Alan Shearer) ?.
The U.S. helped topple a democratically-elected Cuban government so that a pro-business dictator could assume power.
Remember I told you this, many years from now: If you think Castro is bad, just wait until Elian's uncle, Lazaro or Lizardo or whatever, takes over. And if it won't be him, it'll be some other bastard who's even more totally freaking ruthless. The last thing in the world we need is those mural-painting ultra-right psychotics running anything bigger than a heroin smuggling ring. Knocking over Castro for those clowns would be like taking the keys away from Robert Downey Jr. and giving them to James Dean. No offense to the good people of Miami, who haven't to my knowledge participated in a conspiracy to kidnap a small child for a couple of years now.
Of course. It's always our fault. The United States is to blame for all evil and corruption throughout the world. Terrorism is a result of our evil-doings around the globe. Corrupt despots who line their pockets in socialist/dictatorship enclaves are the result of the selfish nature of the American people. If only the American public would lift a finger to help those who are starving and needy around the world we wouldn't have these sorts of problems. We have nobody to blame but the United States. </pakovits/stamen/mitre/insert other yahoos here>
well, Ian I'm glad you finally see things our way <<rubbing hands together with sinister grin>> MWUHAHAHAHAHA! That's one down and 250 million to go! It's not OUR (as in you and me) fault...it's the GOVERNMENT's fault and the CORPORATIONS fault. They just happen to be American.
Cuba is our government's fault for bad foreign policy decisions. Plus, Castro wants to work out relations with our country C14
I feel for Cuba when Castro dies. Since the discovery of Cuba, Cuba has never been free. It has always been under the rule of another country or of someone elses motives. On papaer, supposedly they were free, but we all know its not true Their will be some shyt going down after he dies. Thier will be a power struggle. I just hope the UN or US dont get involve with strings attached to them. I hope that the Cuban people who toughed it out get to choose Cuba's future. In Tampico, I met a lot Cuban immigrants that have lived in Mexico for many years. One is actually counting the days for Castro's death so he can return and take what he thinks is entitled to him. And another Cuban that I met wants no part of it. Maybe I am out of place saying this since I am not Cuban, but I kind of have to side with the Cuban that wants no part of it. I think it would be a tragedy for powerful rich Cuban Americans (Estefans, Mcnamara's, etc) to waltz in there and take everything.. HEll, If I were a cuban who toughed it out, aint no way some PSuedo Cuban American going to come over with a fancy suit and take the lands that I worked for. If they want to invest, good, but for the sake of future, they should be careful who the landowners and entrepenuers are.
Cuba If I were a cuban who toughed it out, aint no way some PSuedo Cuban American going to come over with a fancy suit and take the lands that I worked for. Land or Death
Generalisimo Estefan Originally posted by rdl I think it would be a tragedy for powerful rich Cuban Americans (Estefans, Mcnamara's, etc) to waltz in there and take everything..
Rdl, you shouldn't fault the Cubans that had the resourcefulness to escape. Why should the Cubans that didn't have the balls or the smarts to formulate a good enough plan to leave the country be the ones to inherit it? Why do you call the ones that were able to escape the "pseudo Cubans"? People that were able to take their fate into their own hands should be the ones to lead a country, not the sheep that passively accepted the status quo and laid down to be raped by the Castro regime. The people that stayed with Castro are followers, the ones that left are not inclined to follow. I don't think sheep make good leaders. Just my $.02.
Rdl, you shouldn't fault the Cubans that had the resourcefulness to escape. Why should the Cubans that didn't have the balls or the smarts to formulate a good enough plan to leave the country be the ones to inherit it? Why do you call the ones that were able to escape the "pseudo Cubans"? Why should they be entitled to anything? They left. When there is food on the table, everybody wants to eat, but no one ever wants to make it. Nah uh. Not in my book. And i respect those who are there toughing it out, undermining the government.. than the ones who cant speak a lick of cuban D Spanish) and dont know shyt about being Cuban. They are more Americans than anything not that its bad. Just like a German American saying he is still german after 80 years? have gotten use to the american lifestyle, married an american woman, etc etc etc.. How is it that a Cuban American can still be in roots to Cuba when all of Cuba is shut off to them? A Mexican or an Argentinean can come and go as he pleases... A cuban does not have that luxury. SO what does he know about Cuba other than what the Government is telling you? And you can bet your ass that what they are telling you is not 100% true. With my Mexican citizenship/passport I can travel to Cuba. As a matter of fact, my cousin invited me 3 years ago to go with him. I couldnt go, but did see a lot of pictures of Cuba... and I must say i was very impressed. What I gathered from my cousin is that the Cubans are very educated people and hard working. A lot dont mind the fact that they are a Communist country. Very modest living conditions for the most part ITs not self suffiecient because of land, but since they have a lot of trade blackades... they cant trade as easily. So when you hear peopl saying that they are starving and dont have medicine.... well... the thing is ... you have to go back to the rules of absolute and comparative advantages. When the Soviet wa around... Cuba would produce what was more economical for them and the Soviet would import what they couldnt produce or better yet.. what was more feasible .Lets be frank... you cant produce everything People that were able to take their fate into their own hands should be the ones to lead a country, not the sheep that passively accepted the status quo and laid down to be raped by the Castro regime. They retreat, and yet you want them to lead? interesting... very interesting You see that as heroism and thats fine. I dont. The people that stayed with Castro are followers, the ones that left are not inclined to follow. I don't think sheep make good leaders. THe ones who stayed are the ones who cared. Thje ones who left either had families and did not want to fight OR just did not want to fight. just my $.02. And you can bet your ass that dollars will be there soon from psuedo Cuban Americans. The Cuban Americans that will go in will be light years ahead from a financial standpoint... that the standard of living will so unproportional between the poor and the rich. That a revolution will be inevitable. I know this is off topic here... but when I went to France and saw the marvel of Versailles... while everybody was just in awe.. the only thing that i was thinking was..."how is it that one man can live like that, and have 95% of his countrymen living in poverty.
rdl when I went to France and saw the marvel of Versailles... while everybody was just in awe.. the only thing that i was thinking was..."how is it that one man can live like that, and have 95% of his countrymen living in poverty. My friend took a Piss in the Kings garden at Versailles They were actually charging Money to use their restroom's.
This is a bit odd... The one who choose to flea from their country are the ones most suited to lead?? My personal view is that those who chooses to take a stand for their belives even if it means going to jail or even get killed for it are more suited to lead their country.
It is so damn ridiculous how opportunistic americans are. Germany killed a few million people and initiated a global war but only a few years later was called "americas friend" again because my country (i guess I am german) was a major strategic location as barrier to the communist east and industrial centre of europe. But Cuba,a a poor nonesense nation, is isolated "FOR NO REASON" since decades. At least you have one single former president who is aware of this fact! That is slightly silly since Cuba would be a perfect location for Nike and Gap for child-labour production-facilities as you have them in Laos and Cambodjia (I had the chance to see one myself in July 2000)! And I when I hear this whining about "everyone blames everything on us americans" I could throw up! Untill you people learned and understood what your position in a global society is it is gonna take decades.
Yes I suppose we would have been much better off if we would have left Germany alone like we did after WWI. How did that turn out again? I agree, the embargo should be ended. The Chinese aren't very nice and yet we trade with them, why not Cuba? Please, educate me about our position in global society.
When Castro started the revolution that brought him to power he started out with just 80 men armed with rifles and a machine gun. A few years later he had built a guerrilla army strong enough to oust Batista. There are certainly more than 80 Cubans in exile in America at the moment and I don’t think getting descent equipment should be a problem. So why doesn’t they try doing it the Castro way instead of waiting for the US government or some uprising in Cuba to do the business for them? If the Cuban people are so oppressed as it is reported I’m certain it wouldn’t take long to overthrow the Castro regime. Why doesn’t this happen? Are the Cuban-Americans cowards? Did the Cuban-American flea to America more for economical reasons than political? Are the Cuban people not as oppressed as the Cuban-Americans and US government make it out to be? I’m not trying to be a Castro apologist here, Cuba is without doubt a totalitarian state. I just don’t understand why the Cubans in exile doesn’t take their destiny in their own hands. Instead they have a life in comfort in US and spend a lot of energy demanding harder embargos against Cuba, which will only make their countrymen’s life more difficult.