Handling?

Discussion in 'Referee' started by fairplayforlife, Feb 22, 2021.

  1. sulfur

    sulfur Member+

    Oct 22, 2007
    Ontario, Canada
    It was done because of things just like this ongoing conversation.

    Certain referees (and FAs) refused to bend and apply some practical refereeing and football understanding.

    That's also why the handball law has gotten so persnickety. Because some people/groups/what-have-you refuse to apply "common sense" unless it's written down.
     
  2. fairplayforlife

    fairplayforlife Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I’ve seen it both in person as the referee and I watched a video of it happening in some pro league.

    I’m not sure why the keeper making a mistake somehow makes them eligible to then handle the ball. Why would it be cheap goal?

    If they weren’t allowed to play it that way under pressure before the mistake why would they after the mistake. That seems to be doubly punishing the team that pressured the keeper.
     
  3. Sport Billy

    Sport Billy Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 25, 2006
    it certainly is contrary to the alleged push towards attacking football and more scoring.
     
  4. fairplayforlife

    fairplayforlife Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It’s certainly an interest double standard to think the one is a cheap goal but if the attacker sticks out a leg while the keeper is trying to throw the ball back out onto the field that’s brilliant play from the attacker an the keeper is foolish.
     
  5. LampLighter

    LampLighter Red Card

    Bugeaters FC
    Apr 13, 2019
    Chelsea and Man Utd. Video copied to time of the incident replay. 2:40

     
  6. fairplayforlife

    fairplayforlife Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah. With the current language and standards I’m not sure how that isn’t a handling offence.
     
  7. LampLighter

    LampLighter Red Card

    Bugeaters FC
    Apr 13, 2019
    Games are starting soon for me. I guess I'll just go by what I did in 2019?
     
  8. fairplayforlife

    fairplayforlife Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think everyone has been doing that. Except for the players that yelled for literally every time the ball that touched the hand after 1 week of EPL.
     
  9. LampLighter

    LampLighter Red Card

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    Apr 13, 2019
  10. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    Well, that used to be a good no-call . . .
     
  11. fairplayforlife

    fairplayforlife Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Pretty sure I called it back when this law was changed that defenders could simply boop then ball at the attackers arms and effectively nullify a goal situation.

    Jusy saying... lol
     
  12. LampLighter

    LampLighter Red Card

    Bugeaters FC
    Apr 13, 2019
    Just walk off the field and force a change. This is stupid.
     
  13. fairplayforlife

    fairplayforlife Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But it’s what the game expects... :rolleyes:
     
  14. socal lurker

    socal lurker Member+

    May 30, 2009
    Really? You think the defender was trying to bounce that off the attackers arm? I don't think it's even close to that--he's trying to get the ball away, which is a much smarter strategy than hoping you can hit an arm.
     
  15. djmtxref

    djmtxref Member

    Apr 8, 2013
    I agree. The prediction was that attackers would aim for arms. A mucher higher payoff, I'd think.
     
  16. fairplayforlife

    fairplayforlife Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Probably not. The post was somewhat in jest, hence the “lol”. But it does almost look that way.

    Denying a goal for what happens here illustrates the sheer lunacy of this change.
     
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  17. djmtxref

    djmtxref Member

    Apr 8, 2013
    I'm a Tottenham fan and I repped that.
     
  18. LampLighter

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    Apr 13, 2019
  19. fairplayforlife

    fairplayforlife Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The question of why comes to mind. Seriously. Another example that might prove I have no clue what handling is anymore.
     
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  20. Barciur

    Barciur Member+

    Apr 25, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    So... this is where we are.

    So accidental handling by yourself will still be called if you score or great a goalscoring opportunity but not if it bounces off your hand and goes to your teammate.
     
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  21. fairplayforlife

    fairplayforlife Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If this is true we’re moving in the right direction.
     
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  22. Barciur

    Barciur Member+

    Apr 25, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    I agree, although I do not think changing the interpretation midseason is the best way to go about it. Granted it is not super clear to me if it is indeed changing right now, but from the wording of that statement I think it is?
     
  23. fairplayforlife

    fairplayforlife Member+

    Mar 23, 2011
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Based on what they are doing right now I’m not sure I’d be clear that it was a change even after it’s printed in the book.
     
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  24. Barciur

    Barciur Member+

    Apr 25, 2010
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
  25. Gary V

    Gary V Member+

    Feb 4, 2003
    SE Mich.
    All these changes make me glad I have retired from reffing. My head would hurt worse than my knee does.
     

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