Hamas Attacks, Israel Responds

Muslims can't be born here? I was born here and don't remember ever taking any oath of loyalty....oh God, did I sleep through that day and now I'm not a true American?!?!?!?!

 

All citizens are equal. Doesn't matter if you were naturalized or born. We all have the exact same rights.

 

Well all that genociding must be very tiring. Nice to take a 6 week holiday and then carry on afterwards.

Also, if the Palestinian hostages... sorry, people in administrative detention ... have got any sense they'd be better off staying where they are in prison than being let go only to be murdered by an Israeli bomb, shell or missile in six weeks time.

This part of the article is spot on IMO...

Critics point out that President Biden has opted not to use Washington’s leverage as Israel’s principal arms supplier, and most important international ally, to force it to open up more land access for aid. Emile Hokayem, director for regional security at the International Institute for Strategic Studies, called the US air drops “virtue signalling and an admission of impotence on the part of the US”.​

This stuff that Biden has no power over Israel is for the birds... he's got no power but he HAS got the power to send them 14Bn dollars in military 'aid' and to keep blocking any action in the UN that's voted for by literally EVERY other country in the world. That he CAN manage to do.

 

So the much discussed airdrop consisted of 38000 meals. For 2 million starving people.

It's hard not to understand the cynicism of those who interpret this whole thing as a PR move.

 

Israel is the one with the obligation under international law to provide the supplies. You cannot just blow up neighbourhoods, occupy them, not allow other people in or out, then say to others “what are you lot going to do to sort this out”.

Not only is it not doing that, it is restricting supplies by keeping the borders closed to those who would happily bring in aid, and refusing to allow police to escort aid supplies.

It is using famine and war to try and reshape the civil institutions in Gaza. It is trying to bantustan Gaza by asking tribal chiefs to take over responsibility for governance and aid distribution. There are hoping that a clan approach will work because clan leaders will be desperate to control food supply so that they can feed their own clan, even if it means collaborating with the occupiers.

There is plenty of food for the Gazans but there is a famine in the north, and it’s an israeli made famine.

 

We could block out the sun with airplanes full of food and medical supplies and cover all of Gaza with aid.

I did see that the King of Jordan delivered aid.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middl...lah-participates-gaza-aid-airdrop-2024-02-11/

 

I thought a cease fire was what people were asking for, but you’re still bitching at Israel even when that potentially happens?

 

I don't know where you get that from. I've ALWAYS maintained that a temporary ceasefire where all the the Israeli hostages are released and then the killing of Palestinians is continued is almost the worst of ALL worlds for Gaza.

There needs to be a complete ceasefire, the release of ALL hostages as a prelude to a negotiated settlement including an agreement for a Palestinian state, even if the precise borders are to be decided.

 

Well personally I am asking for fewer dead Palestinian kids. Ideally none.
I don't much care how that is achieved.
I have seen more images of mangled little bodies in the last few months than I care to see in ten lifetimes.

 

The temporary ceasefire has the potential to become a longer one, and they have to start somewhere.

 

Well, yeah, I get that... but the problem is that most things have the 'potential' to be other things but unless there's some positive will to make them become the other thing, they won't happen.

Until quite recently Netanyahi has been droning on about 'victory being within reach', without actually spelling out 'victory' will look like... unless he means everyone in Gaza being dead which is a kinda victory I suppose. This is the problem... this guy lives in a parallel universe to the rest of us but, with America's support, he's never brought up short.

Biden's still trying to send billions of dollars in AID to Israel, despite the fact that Israel's GDP is roughly $55k per head as opposed to most of the middle east and north africa which is roughly $4k per, (excluding high income individuals).

So where is this 'potential' that we're seeing?

Anyway, hopefully Biden's got a plan in place to apply pressure to them and to make some progress towards some sort of resolution and it's all being kept a secret from the likes of me and you.

Yeah, OK... let's run with that for a while

 

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You know, when Alex Jones did the whole "those dead kids aren't real" thing after Sandy Hook, most decent people called him out for being a soulless ghoul.
Apparently it's fine to do it to Palestinian bereaved parents.

 

At least ten children have reportedly died because of dehydration and malnutrition in Kamal Adwan Hospital in the Northern Gaza Strip in recent days.

Statement by @adelekhodr, on malnourished babies in Gaza slowly perishing under the world’s gaze.

— UNICEF (@UNICEF) March 3, 2024

 

For what it's worth, not that the US have the same influence it once did

What we are seeing every day in Gaza is devastating, and our common humanity compels us to act.

Given the immense scale of suffering in Gaza, there must be an immediate ceasefire for at least the next six weeks. pic.twitter.com/mst8N9HxKa

— Kamala Harris (@KamalaHarris) March 3, 2024

 

First they came for the Jews, yesterday they came for the Italians.

Who will be next?

History has shown us that what starts with the Jews never ends with the Jews. We must stand together, #UnitedAgainstHate, to ensure history does not repeat itself. https://t.co/Nc0y2FrF23

— Kevin Vuong (@KevinVuongMP) March 3, 2024

Considering Meloni is a far-right Italian politician and a self-avowed Mussolini fangirl, this is one of the most insane uses of Niemöller's rhetorical device I have ever seen.

 

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...or-israeli-hostage-tells-of-captivity-in-gaza

Awe-inspiring amounts of grace and compassion from a person who has plentiful reasons to feel a level of glee or joy at the devastation in Gaza but doesn't.
Also touches upon the danger the massive bombing campaigns put the hostages in. I guess that has already been touched upon numerous times in this topic, but this is the perspective of a hostage who actually lived it.

 

Yeah, that's like saying,' First the nazis came for the jews, then the nazis came for the nazis'. Er... that's not how that works mate!