Hamas Attacks, Israel Responds

Also, why would anyone assume another Trump presidency (in which he will be fully unleashed and go full authoritarian from day one) would be good for Jewish Americans?

 

I'm assuming he means the entire left and by the left he means anyone who has expressed even a modicum of sympathy for Palestinian civilians.
Just trying to save us all some time here.

 

I find it quite funny to read the Democrats being designated as "Left".
They are in Dutch terms on the right side of the centre and the right wing side of the Democrats on our conservative right wing.

 

How did manage to you unearth that gem?

 

It is hard to compare EU politics and parties to the US though. Context and environment are totally different.

 

I'm not trusting Musk to be the least bit informed about this, but that's not something that occurs just on the right, nor just among anti-Semites. Unless Haaretz is an organ of anti-Semitism.

https://archive.ph/BCrFP

The MO of Netanyahu’s policy since his return to the Prime Minister’s Office in 2009 has and continues to be, on the one hand, bolstering the rule of Hamas in the Gaza Strip, and, on the other, weakening the Palestinian Authority.


His return to power was accompanied by a complete turnaround from the policy of his predecessor, Ehud Olmert, who sought to end the conflict through a peace treaty with the most moderate Palestinian leader – PA President Mahmoud Abbas.
. . .

In practice, since the Cast Lead operation in late 2008 and early 2009, during the Olmert era, Hamas’ rule has not faced any genuine military threat. On the contrary: The group has been supported by the Israeli prime minister, and funded with his assistance.


When Netanyahu declared in April 2019, as he has after every other round of fighting, that “we have restored deterrence with Hamas” and that “we have blocked the main supply routes,” he was lying through his teeth.

For over a decade, Netanyahu has lent a hand, in various ways, to the growing military and political power of Hamas. Netanyahu is the one who turned Hamas from a terror organization with few resources into a semi-state body.​

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Copied and pasted the thread title.


Hamas Attacks, (Slaughters hundreds of men women and children. Takes hundreds more hostage. Gains support from many left wing factions)
Israel Responds
(In their usual OTT way with brute force while chanting “never again” with support from right wingers)

Has anything changed yet? Didn’t think so. Nothing will change until Israel stop treating Palestinians like second class people. Taking land and property at a whim.
Nor will it change until Hamas has gone.
There is no middle ground. So,
Rinse and Repeat !!!

 

You are very thick.

I give up trying to teach you. Carry on.

 

I've found the original article from the Guardian stating unnamed IDF sources.

 

You’re just asking for @American Brummie at yell at you again, aren’t you?

Dems in the US are a slightly-left-of-center party by most every metric.

 

Projection is a hell of a drug.....

 

You're smarter than this.

 

Also the Dutch just elected as leading candidate for PM someone whose party holds more extreme views than Donald Trump so I don't buy this bullshit from Dutch Monitor for a second.

 

Has there been an end to violence in the other direction in other areas such as the west bank? I read the other day there'd been something like 140 Palestinians killed in the west bank since 7th Oct. If that violence is still continuing doesn't that mean that Israel has broken the ceasefire?

If the violence you're mentioning here means there's no ceasefire, that must also mean that any settler or private Israeli individual or small group must ALSO be an end to the ceasefire... right?

I mean, personally I think that's a bit of a daft way of seeing it.

We had the breakaway groups of the IRA over here including continuity IRA and 'The real IRA' who committed some acts but the good Friday agreement wasn't abandoned because of them.

 

Based on what?

In any case, if we are going to make leftism and antisemitism synonymous it would be nice to properly define what type of left-wing behavior and rhetoric we are talking about here.

 

What about the Dutch (Monitor) metric?