Guess Which Soccer Player I Am (Pretending to Be)

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by nancyb, Oct 30, 2003.

  1. dred

    dred Member+

    Nov 7, 2000
    Land of Champions
    Very close! But Mike has played organized ball in Serie A which is outside the US.

    This player is still active.
     
  2. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are you Diego Gutierrez?
     
  3. nancyb

    nancyb Member

    Jun 30, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I guess we need to ask whether top flight includes MLS. If so, that would exclude Diego from consideration.

    Dred - we need more clues.
     
  4. PaulGascoigne

    PaulGascoigne Member+

    Feb 5, 2001
    Aotearoa/NZ
    I don't know much about US soccer in the late 80s or whatever, but Stollmeyer or some college player who got put straight on to the US team seems to be the likelihood here. How else could you never play organized ball outside the US but still make the US team without being at the top level for more than half a year?
     
  5. Craig P

    Craig P BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 26, 1999
    Eastern MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Half a season at a time or half a season in total?
     
  6. subbuteo

    subbuteo New Member

    Dec 17, 2002
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    michael mason or david wagner
     
  7. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The question is, what is top level? Is MLS top level? Is Belgium I top level?

    Or only the top levels in the big 4?
     
  8. nancyb

    nancyb Member

    Jun 30, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If MLS is not top flight, then we have many more choices of potential people - if only we can find the person born a citizen overseas.
     
  9. Kevin in Louisiana

    Kevin in Louisiana New Member

    Feb 7, 2003
    Metairie, LA
    "He never played organized soccer outside the US" has to include that he never played professional soccer outside the US. So it's not somebody who played in Belgium or Holland or England or wherever.

    I read "top flight" as the top division of whatever was around at the time. Since this has to be America, it would be MLS since its inception and A-league or whatever prior to 1996. Alternately, "top flight" could mean a FIFA-sanctioned Division I league and thus (correct me if I'm wrong) the A-league (even before MLS) would not count.
     
  10. uniteo

    uniteo Member+

    Sep 2, 2000
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Could it be somebody who played indoor soccer?
     
  11. subbuteo

    subbuteo New Member

    Dec 17, 2002
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    maybe it's futsal or beach soccer :rolleyes:
     
  12. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Juli Veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ?
     
  13. nancyb

    nancyb Member

    Jun 30, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Doesn't meet the "born American" criteria.
     
  14. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It said not born in America....Juli Vee was born in Hungary.

    Anyway, I was sort of kidding, but hey, it might be right.
     
  15. dred

    dred Member+

    Nov 7, 2000
    Land of Champions
    Kevin in Lousiana is correct, "top flight" was not an attempt at trickery. A-League from 83 to 95 would count. Furthermore, yes, Belgium is outside the US so whether it is "top flight" is irrelevant.

    Good question, I meant half season at a time.

    Another clue coming up this evening. Don't forget I already added that this player is still active.
     
  16. dred

    dred Member+

    Nov 7, 2000
    Land of Champions
    By showing the Way, I have shown the Answer.
     
  17. PaulGascoigne

    PaulGascoigne Member+

    Feb 5, 2001
    Aotearoa/NZ
    I looked at Sam's Army's list of active players who have been capped, looked at those who have played "at the top level" (but never abroad) and I don't seem to find anyone who meets the criteria.

    No one who was recently capped who could have played less than 1 season in MLS was born outside the US. Ching might fit if hadn't been born in Hawaii.

    There was one old guy who I couldn't find a birthplace for who played for Colorado briefly early on and has been in the A-League (Scott Benedetti). Probably not foreign-born.

    Seems like a hard one.
     
  18. dred

    dred Member+

    Nov 7, 2000
    Land of Champions
    Doh! Talk about anti-climatic. Reread the question.
     
  19. PaulGascoigne

    PaulGascoigne Member+

    Feb 5, 2001
    Aotearoa/NZ
    Indeed :rolleyes: :)

    The "John Stockton of MLS" it is...
     
  20. Kevin in Louisiana

    Kevin in Louisiana New Member

    Feb 7, 2003
    Metairie, LA
    Yep, I guess geographically North America doesn't include Hawaii.
     
  21. MarioKempes

    MarioKempes Member+

    Real Madrid, DC United, anywhere Pulisic plays
    Aug 3, 2000
    Proxima Centauri
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm confused, is the answer Brian Ching or is it Scott Benedetti. Ching was born in Hawaii, one of the 50 states, which is surely in North America. Ching also played in MLS in 2001, 2002, and 2003, so I'm not sure how it can be him.
     
  22. Craig P

    Craig P BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 26, 1999
    Eastern MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Remember that the bit about the top flight was intended to be not more than half a season at a time, per dred's answer to my question above. If Ching didn't spend more than half a season each in 2001, 2002, and 2003, then he would still qualify there.
     
  23. soccertom

    soccertom New Member

    Jun 2, 1999
    Shawn Petroski.
     
  24. nancyb

    nancyb Member

    Jun 30, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    soccertom - MarioKempes got that one right when he answered Grover Gibson. You guy could also fit that description, but I haven't researched him to know for sure.

    OK, I'm going with the crowd and saying dred's guy is Brian Ching. Next up, another "mystery" player.
     
  25. nancyb

    nancyb Member

    Jun 30, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was a college standout and played in England. I was known for my outspokeness and tough attitude during my stint in England. I had a good start, but like many of my American brethren, I couldn't maintain the performance I showed at the start of my career there and ended up playing for the reserves for most of my brief English career.

    I appeared for the US national team and, one year, scored the team's only goal of the entire year.
     

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