Guatemala vs Jamaica, USA and Antigua 2012 WCQ (R)

Discussion in 'Guatemala' started by lguti9, Jun 5, 2012.

  1. drerodz

    drerodz Member

    Jan 10, 2007
    SF Bay Area
    Nat'l Team:
    Guatemala
    Ive never been so angry at the sele as I am at this very moment. I absolutely hate my team right now for pissing away a game 11 player who looked like the had never played a singe game together and the ass clown of a coach Klinnsman whos cheering like he ACTUALLY did something.
     
  2. edcalvi

    edcalvi Moderator
    Staff Member

    Guatemala
    May 1, 2005
    California
    I agree we played like shit, worst game I've ever seen. Klinsmann is a piece of shite too.
     
  3. drerodz

    drerodz Member

    Jan 10, 2007
    SF Bay Area
    Nat'l Team:
    Guatemala
    Seriously. Its THE WORST game this team has played in the passed 2 years. Weve had bad games but weve always played hard and made an attempt to get back in it. This game was nothing like that.

    And please NO ONE give me this bullshit of Almeida this Almeida that. These were the same guys who have played in the past 6 games and the all did absolutely NOTHING.

    Watching the image of Ruiz crying into the towel breaks my heart bc he was the ONLY player in these 6 games that played his heart out.
     
  4. Catracho_Azul

    Catracho_Azul Member+

    Jun 16, 2008
    New Orleans
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Honduras
    Drogba?
     
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  5. ChaChaFut

    ChaChaFut Member

    Jun 30, 2005
    Stop it. We've been playing like shit for like 7 years. The stupid goals we let in are nothing new. And if it hadn't been for Enoc, Jerez, and the ref who did not call a clear PK on a foul against Bradley, it would have been a lot more embarassing of an exit.

    La Sele got to this instance because we got a bit lucky in all 3 home games to come up with the results we did. Late goals from set pieces against USA and Jamaica, and an offside goal against Antigua. Some of us saw the elimination coming a while ago by virtue of the quality of players and play we saw, and because, well, the group was tough. We knew everyone was gonna get 6 points out of Antigua. So the key was to get points from the other opponents. We got 4 out of 12 points, and barely at that.
     
  6. edcalvi

    edcalvi Moderator
    Staff Member

    Guatemala
    May 1, 2005
    California
    Totally agree.
     
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  7. lguti9

    lguti9 Member

    Aug 5, 2008
    virginia
    Club:
    CSD Comunicaciones
    Nat'l Team:
    Guatemala
    The poorest game I've seen of Guatemala, sad very sad. No ideas on the field, no pressing. Nothing. Defense, wow they were just looking while the USA was passing and passing around them. Well time to move on, hopefully we'll have a new process for real. With this i think Almeida will leave the Sele, because he said if he didn't take Guate to the WCQ. I still dont give a s#it, I'm still supporting the Sele, because like most of us in here, we're true fans. We gotta look ahead, thats the only way to go fellas. I hope our new process will start with the Central American Cup, which is the next competiton we got. GRACIAS CARLOS "PESCADITO" RUIZ SOS GRANDE

    Congrats to USA, Panama, Honduras, Costa Rica, Canada, Jamaica, Mexico

    AGUANTE GUATE PARA SIEMPRE
     
  8. Real Corona

    Real Corona Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 19, 2008
    Colorado
    Club:
    FC Metalist Kharkiv
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Guatemalan fans put out by far the biggest away support of all three teams tonight. Not that outdrawing Antigua is much but there were no Jamaicans to be seen in Columbus and here they had about 2.5 sections.
     
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  9. Tecunuman

    Tecunuman Member

    Jan 11, 2011
    Providence, RI
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    Guatemala
    WOW Really Guatemala! you messed up real bad!! all you had to do was tie!! But it was almost expected that Guatemala was gonna loose. All I can say now is GRACIAS PESCADO!! We need to change so much in Guatemala if we really ever want to go to the world cup.
     
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  10. MauriceDel-Taco

    Nov 20, 2011
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Gracias Fish, players like him only come around once in a lifetime and i'm glad that he played for Guate. Without him and his 55 goals, our national team would've been even worse than they already are.
     
  11. lguti9

    lguti9 Member

    Aug 5, 2008
    virginia
    Club:
    CSD Comunicaciones
    Nat'l Team:
    Guatemala
    Thanks Real Corona, and congrats, USA came to play and won. Guate didnt. Wether Almeida continues or not i think we need to focus on a young squad. Calling the original U20 that qualified Guate to it's first U20 World Cup.
    Gerson Lima, Bentacurt, Kendel Herrarte, Carlos Castillo, Elias Enoc, Marvin Ceballos(who will be eligible to play in a year), Jose Del Aguila, in addition to them Alejandro Galindo, Marco Cianni, Contreras, Ricardo Jerez, Wilson Lalin, Henry Lopez, Gallardo, Marco Pappa, and Campollo. I think this should be our base team to work for the next World Cup Soccer.
     
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  12. drerodz

    drerodz Member

    Jan 10, 2007
    SF Bay Area
    Nat'l Team:
    Guatemala
    Seriously. Im really sick of crappy old players out on the field with exception to Ruiz. We need to have a solid base of young fast and smart players. Not these constant one off like Chalo, Figueroa who just take up space and show their age on the field.
     
  13. lazulyblanco

    lazulyblanco Member

    Oct 20, 2010
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Sigo pensando que nuestro mayor problema es la direccion tecnica.
    De todo el tiempo que estuvo Almeida no hizo mayor cosa. Lo rescatable fue lo de denunciar los amaños (aunque para el Cabrera y Flores eran titulares inamovibles apesar de sus cagadas) y lo de ciertas jugadas a balon parado. Ademas que gracias a el regreso el Fish.
    Pero despues no hizo mayor cosa, llamo a jugadores que no tenia que llamar y siempre planteo mal los juegos, tanto que hacia 3 o 2 cambios al medio tiempo para replantear el juego y nos salvo varias veces, pero contra un rival como EEUU ni cerca estuvimos. Ni modo se murio con la suya y si hubiera clasificado era totalmente merito de el.

    Creo que ya es ahora de darle la oportunidad a un nuevo tecnico que no tenga lazos afectivos con ningun club, ni con ningun jugador en especial (MANUEL LEON). Y que venga aportar algo diferente, en cuanto a nombres, actitud y planteamiento.
    Los dos nombres que se me ocurren son KENTON y SOPEGNO (A pesar de ser crema). Cualquiera de los dos, pienso yo que haria un buen trabajo, pero se tendria que contratarlo ya. Porque otro gran problema fue nuestro ranking fifa, si hubieramos estado mas arriba, talvez nos hubiera tocado un grupo mas accesible. Por lo menos es el fin de un ciclo, el Pescado lo entendio asi, y ojala PEZZAROSSI, CHALO, LOCO, FIGUEROA, ALBIZURIS, ERWIN den un paso al costado y dejen a los jovenes armar una nueva seleccion.
     
  14. jfcule

    jfcule Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 4, 2005
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Completamente de acuerdo tambien.

    Debe haber una renovacion de todo el proceso de selecciones. A la mierda todos, jugadores viejos, directivos, entrenadores, preparadores, etc. TODO

    Hay que empezar de cero. Empezar este mismo año, teniendo como meta Rusia 2018. El nucleo tiene que ser los sub-20. No importan los resultados a corto plazo, el objetivo tiene que ser llegar a un mundial al fin. Hay que promover a estos jugadores jovenes y buscar que se fogueen en una mejor liga.
     
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  15. lguti9

    lguti9 Member

    Aug 5, 2008
    virginia
    Club:
    CSD Comunicaciones
    Nat'l Team:
    Guatemala
    I think we all agree that is time for a new change in our football, saying that Almeida has to go. Carlos el pescadito already said he's retiring from the Sele, Chalo will retired by the end of this year, Pezzarossi i hope he realizes that his time has passed. El Loco, IMO has to go, he's out of shape, no soccer skills at all. Is time to start fresh, NOW like you said Jfcule and Cha. I say even start looking for a new coach now, bring Sopegno, he knows our canteras, and our football. He's the guy that will def. give all of us what we want, a young squad.
     
  16. kickball21

    kickball21 Member

    Jan 13, 2007
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Guatemala
    was kenton the coach that almost to us to the olimpics, but lost to honduras in penalties?
     
  17. Itzallboutgtown

    Mar 27, 2009
    Philadelphia
    Club:
    CSD Comunicaciones
    Nat'l Team:
    Guatemala
    yes that was Kenton, I really like Kenton and honestly I think pescado should retired from soccer and go out big!! maybe join up with Machon for the federation spot, NO way they will loose this time with el Pescado on the field ; ) !!
     
  18. lguti9

    lguti9 Member

    Aug 5, 2008
    virginia
    Club:
    CSD Comunicaciones
    Nat'l Team:
    Guatemala
    Well Ruiz has declared in Prensalibre that he is retiring from the Sele. Now is time to really look for his replacement, someone that can score and will take the team on their back. To me the one to take his place will be Marvin Ceballos, after he comesback from his punishement from the Federation. He has one more year left.
     
  19. lazulyblanco

    lazulyblanco Member

    Oct 20, 2010
    Club:
    Corinthians Sao Paulo
    Marvin es volante de llegada, no es delantero como el Pescado. Ceballos para mi es un nuevo Machon.
    Hay otros propectos como Betancourt, Valenzuela, Henry, Lima y Barrientos. Pero ninguno tiene las caracteristicas del Pescado. Estan tambien Arreola, Cali y Brown pero Jairo ya lo tiran mas de volante y los ultimos dos no han estado muy activos.
    Lo mas cerca que tenemos a un goleador y lider ahorita es Israel Silva. Lo malo es su edad.
     
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  20. lguti9

    lguti9 Member

    Aug 5, 2008
    virginia
    Club:
    CSD Comunicaciones
    Nat'l Team:
    Guatemala
    True Jonas, like you said, Israel Silva is the best goal scorer right now in Guate, but his age, asi mejor k siga el pescado lol. But I think Ceballos can be utilized as a forward. Mira donde ponia el Almeida al Pappa, Pappa is better as a right or left wing, he had him on the center mid. But def. we need to find another young forward that has a lot of skills and has speed. A buscar en Isabal.
     
  21. kickball21

    kickball21 Member

    Jan 13, 2007
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Guatemala
    i really liked kenton too. that's the most organized i have ever seen a guate side. no stupid defending, smart passes. YES, i say bring him aboard
     
  22. drerodz

    drerodz Member

    Jan 10, 2007
    SF Bay Area
    Nat'l Team:
    Guatemala
    I'm all for Kenton. He's the only coach who actually went LOOKING for talent and then got them to a smart/tactical playing team. We have a base of players witht the U-20 WC team, so build from that base to use in the NT team.
     

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