GOP Failure Watch Part VI (Majority in House Edition) The Insurrection Caucus Sh*tshow.

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  1. Smurfquake

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    It's from the linked article from Politifact in ceezmad's post. Link: https://www.politifact.com/factchec...trick-says-all-crime-estimate-committed-15-p/

    Here's the quote
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    To our inquiry, William Kelly, director of the University of Texas Center for Criminology and Criminal Justice Research, noted that according to the U.S. Sentencing Project, as many as 100 million U.S. residents, which in 2014 would have been equal to 41 percent of the adult population, had a criminal conviction.
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    The "according to the..." link (*) in the article now goes to a page not found 404 error. In fact, all three links in that paragraph don't go anywhere. I guess William Kelly is no longer at UT, and the census link just errors out. I thought that there were more US residents in 2014 so that 100 million would be less than 41% but I'm not going to do the math right now. Anyways, it seems kind of sketch, unless they're including traffic infractions which are a step below a misdemeanor.

    (*) it's not actually a link that got copied and pasted when I copied and pasted the section from the article, and I'm not going to go add the links to the quote, but you can go to the politifact link at the top and then click on the links in the article to see what happens.
     
  2. superdave

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    Ok I’d looked at the article but there’s a big ad in the middle they I thought was the end of the article.

    I’ve seen too many news articles that deceive the reader by using phrases like “as many as.” It’s always the biggest number the researcher can come up with; otherwise there would be another number that would be “as many as.” That phrase is one of the main ones I use to detect a journo whose intent is to mislead. It’s a tool for anti-journalists.
     
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  3. ceezmad

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    The Link was on my post, you have to click on it and scroll down.

    Adults.

    "our inquiry, William Kelly, director of the University of Texas Center for Criminology and Criminal Justice Research, noted that according to the U.S. Sentencing Project, as many as 100 million U.S. residents, which in 2014 would have been equal to 41 percent of the adult population, had a criminal conviction."
     
  4. ceezmad

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    Drug possession, fighting, any crime that resulted in pleading/found guilty is what they tried to cover.

    How accurate that is, give or take a few percentages it may not be far off.

    The fact check point is that there is nothing that indicates 15% and it could be as high as 41% depending on how you measure it.

    So the Texas LGov is full of shit.
     
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  5. taosjohn

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    Three points--
    1. In this construction "as many as" isn't any more real than "way fewer than" would be. It is an active/passive distinction rather than a serious number.
    2. "Residents" are not necessarily US criminals or even US population.
    3. The "adult population" is not "all Americans."

    The number is pointless and useless-- it is a closet monster and the post a fear tactic.

    Incidentally the link wouldn't load at all for me. Security software thought it was Satanic or something.
     
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  6. chaski

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    I once got a ticket for jaywalking.
    Does that count?
     
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  7. Dr. Wankler

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    I got yelled at by a cop for Jaywalking in DC once. I’ve gotten away with dozens of public urinations. And counting. But never in DC.

    Yet.
     
  8. dapip

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    While I don’t disagree on the misleading magnitude of the number, it’s also worth noting that the US has the largest carceral population in the world and that some “conducts”, like drug addiction and homelessness have been treated as crimes for about 50 years.
     
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  9. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    Keep up the good work, boys! :eek:

     
  10. ToMhIlL

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    "Police say the bag he was carrying may have contained cocaine." Yeah, it also may have contained a severed head, or a wet towel and sweaty gym clothes or a book from the lie-berry or anything else...

    Is George Santos stupid? (Don't answer, it's a rhetorical question) I know his latest thing is to do cameos for people, wishing them a happy birthday, etc. But he really didn't know what NAMBLA is, and why it wouldn't be a good idea (especially for a gay man with a dubious past) to be praising them?
     
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  11. Sounders78

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    Clearly he thought it was the National Association of Marlon Brando Look Alikes.
     
  12. Kazuma

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    Back when South Park was funny.
     
  13. Dr. Wankler

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    what pornography would see if it could look back through the screen
     
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  14. charlie15

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    Happy family again.....

    Rep. Chip Roy (R-TX) said he is “beside himself” over Speaker Mike Johnson fundraising for Rep. Tony Gonzales (R-TX) ahead of his primary runoff next month, Punchbowl News reports.

    Said Roy: “I’m being attacked. Conservatives are being attacked. Bob Good, the chairman of the Freedom Caucus, is being attacked by Tony. He said he was a Klansman. I cannot tolerate what’s happening to the people that I think are standing up for this country.”
     
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  15. ToMhIlL

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    Who said who was a Klansman? If they have "R-TX" after their name there's a good chance that it's all of them.
     
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  16. superdave

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    Bob Good is from Virginia
     
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  17. charlie15

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    Hakeem Jeffries emerges as Congress' shadow speaker

    Rep. Hakeem Jeffries (D-N.Y.) found himself in an unusual position for a minority leader last week: It was he, not the House speaker, who had the ultimate power to decide whether legislation came to the floor.

    Why it matters: Democrats got everything they wanted – a $95 billion foreign aid bill, the credit for passing it, and adversaries more divided than ever. In their telling, that total victory wasn't a sure thing.

    • Former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), a master legislative tactician, heaped praise on her successor: "He is fabulous. We're so proud of him."
    • One senior House Democrat told Axios: "It easily could have fallen apart ... He played the cards the way you'd want to play them."
    • "I would not want to play blackjack against him," the lawmaker added.
    https://www.axios.com/2024/04/21/hakeem-jeffries-speaker-mike-johnson-israel-ukraine
     
  18. Yoshou

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    And this may be the real reason Johnson brought the bills to the floor. Jeffries has been working behind the scenes to "whip" Republicans into signing the discharge motion for the Senate bill and wouldn't have saved Johnson from the lunatic fringe of Republicans.

    This is especially true if several Republicans were going to resign immediately and/or vote for Jeffries as Speaker if MTG triggered the vote on removing Johnson.
     
  19. chaski

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    o_O
    You play blackjack against the house, not in the House.
     
  20. dapip

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    Now do Abbot:

     
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  21. The Jitty Slitter

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    this makes more sense to me

    Johnson consolidated power via this deal making and broke the MAGA hold over him.

    it’s what Kevin should have done except he crawled to trump instead and trump betrayed him.
     
  22. song219

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    This couldn't work because if there was one consensus about Kevin on both sides of congress it was that he couldn't keep his word. You can't make a deal with someone like that.
     
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  23. dapip

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    Stop the steal!!!

    1783115587670954405 is not a valid tweet id
     
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  24. dapip

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    Impeachment via rapture:

     
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  25. The Jitty Slitter

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    yes. he’s also reportedly just not that smart.
     
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