Benfica 21/22 2.29 goals per game Darwin Nunez 21/22 1.07 G/A per game 46% goal contribution percent Liverpool 22/23 1.97 goals per game Darwin Nunez 22/23 0,41 G/A per game 20% goal contribution percent "The number of goals and assists a player generates is directly proportional to what the other players on the team generate." Trachta10, 2024
Leverkusen 19/20 1,79 goals per game Havertz 19/20 0.40 G/A per game 22% goal contribution Chelsea 20/21 1,52 goals per game Havertz 20/21 0,25 G/A per game 16% goal contribution
Leipzig 19/20 2,38 goals per game Timo Werner 19/20 1,05 G/A per game 44% goal contribution Chelsea 20/21 1,52 goals per game Timo Werner 20/21 0,40 G/A per game 26% goal contribution Dortmund 20/21 2,20 goals per game Sancho 20/21 0,73 G/A per game 33% goal contribution Man Utd 21/22 1,50 goals per game Sancho 21/22 0,20 G/A per game 13% goal contribution "the number of goals and assists a player generates is directly proportional to what the other players on the team generate" -Trachta10, 2024
Inter 20/21 2,34 goals per game Lukaku 20/21 0,97 G/A per game 41% goal contribution Chelsea 21/22 2 goals per game Lukaku 21/22 0,30 G/A per game 15% goal contribution
Atleti 18/19 1,44 goals per game Griezmann 18/19 0,64 G/A per game 44% goal contribution Barça 19/20 2,26 goals per game Griezmann 19/20 0,37 G/A per game 16% goal contribution
Valencia 09/10 1,55 goals per game Villa 09/10 0,77 G/A per game 49% goal contribution Barcelona 10/11 2,5 goals per game Villa 10/11 0,71 G/A per game 28% goal contribution
Obviously, with more competition between players, it’s harder to maintain a high percentage, but conversely, I can say the same about the raw number of G+A per 90, which will be higher in teams that generate more goals, and this is much more decisive in the number. If you put Cristiano Ronaldo playing for Valencia, he would have half the G+A per 90 he had in Real Madrid and he would still be the same player. It’s true that the contribution percentage is very imperfect, but the raw G+A number is even worse. Look at this list of players; do you really believe Josef Bican is twice the player Henry was? Do you think Eusébio is twice as good a goal scorer as Batistuta? That Puskás is twice the player Baggio was? Stop thinking about Cristiano Ronaldo for a second and try to reason a little. In this graph, why is the team's average goal rate so closely proportional to the player's G+A average? Besides that, why was Maradona easily able to average 2 G+A when the team he played for generated 3+ goals per game? What if Maradona had played his entire career on a team that generated 3 goals per game? Obviously, the raw numbers that players generate largely depend on their context.
Bican not !!! But Puskas ... against Baggio.. Puskas .. 10000x times better than Baggio Eusebio vs Batistuta .. Eusebio 900x times better Than Batistuta ... I say this.. I saw 4 playing entire matches..several matches.. Baggio is also not suitable or able for tying shoelaces to Puskas ..
..... There are several full games available on the Internet these days...me ...in your place.. would be more careful before making false or unsubstantiated statements really concrete or true !
Roberto Baggio .. you can compare with Ronaldinho Gaucho or Dennis Bergkamp ... never never never ... with Ferenc Puskas ,, Puskas ... you can compare with Maradona ... or Messi ...
yes I believe ...this .. not only twice better player even ... 10000000000000000000000000 x times better player .. mainly in the case .. Puskas .vs Baggio . !
I don't think it's any worse. You are assuming that if Maradona played for a team with a higher average of goals per game he would have a higher average as well and you use as a basis the games in which his team won by 3+ goals. But you ignore the context that if he plays with better forwards, his numbers will go down. Part of him having a higher contribution percentage is because he chooses to play for teams relatively weaker so that the team could play for him. But what if he plays in the same team as Messi? Do you think his goal contribution percent would still be that high? Obviously not. See David Villa and all the other players I mentioned as an example. The whole premise of your thread (i.e. "the number of goals a player generate is directly proportional to the number of goals his team generate") were debunked with all the examples I gave. Why do you think Maradona didn't played on the best teams of his own era? Maybe because then he would have to share the spotlights with another star?
If Maradona had played, for example, in Messi’s Barcelona, he would have a lower percentage, I agree with that, although you can't know for certain because it’s a counterfactual, since he never played in such powerful teams. Perhaps the closest was when he played for Barcelona from 1982-1984, where in 58 games he generated a G+A per 90 of 1.234 and a contribution percentage of 58.66%. Here you have a real example of Maradona playing for a powerful team for that time. How can you look at this graph and not be able to understand what you’re seeing? Think about it: why, when the team Pelé or Messi played for scored 1 or 2 goals, with an average of around 1.5, didn’t they have a G+A per 90 of 1.2 as usual? Why, when Maradona was on a team that scored 3+ goals, didn’t his G+A stay at 0.7 per 90? Why did Maradona suddenly generate 2 G+A per 90? Do you see that the contribution percentage remains practically the same in both scenarios? Shouldn't the contribution percentage be much higher when the team scores 1-2 goals?
Of course, he was sharing goals with Marcos Alonso and Carrasco, not Platini and Zico. Again, there are several factors that influence a player's goal contribution percentage and the team's goal average is not necessarily one of them. I gave 8 examples but I could have given more and in all of them the player had a goal contribution percentage and also a lower g+a average even though he played on a team with a higher goal average. You can increase the sample size if you want but I don't believe it will change anything in the case of all these players I mentioned. Therefore, the premise of your thread is not universal and does not apply to all players.
I agree that the level of teammates is a determining factor in that percentage. I’m not saying that a player with a higher contribution percentage is automatically superior to one with a lower percentage; that would be a very simplistic analysis. If I could, I would adjust it to benefit players who play in stronger teams. For example, Maradona has a higher percentage than Cristiano Ronaldo, but I’m aware that the context for Cristiano to have a high percentage is more difficult. I can't conclude anything, but in similar contexts, both players would generate similar G+A averages p90. I have no doubt about that.
.... well For me ... i'm brazilian .. and i'm a bigger Of Pelé ...Ferenc Puskas .. Gullit ..Cruyff .. Di Stefano... Garrincha ..Didi Folha Seca ; ..etc... But For me .. The most Talent ...and Skillful Player ..ever ... was Diego Armando Maradona . he proves this ... in World Cup 1986 ... 7, 85 dribbles made per 90 minutes in World Cup ..1986 ... !