Germany's greatest athlete

Discussion in 'Germany' started by arthur d, Nov 20, 2004.

  1. arthur d

    arthur d Member

    Oct 17, 2004
    Cambridge England
    As voted by ZDF viewers. Comments? No football player in the top three, is this surprising?

    1. Michael Schumacher (Formel 1)
    2. Birgit Fischer (Kanu)
    3. Steffi Graf (Tennis)
    4. Franz Beckenbauer (Fußball)
    5. Boris Becker (Tennis)
    6. Max Schmeling (Boxen)
    7. Jan Ullrich (Rad)
    8. Franziska van Almsick (Schwimmen)
    9. Gerd Müller (Fußball)
    10. Oliver Kahn (Fußball)
    11. Michael Ballack (Fußball)
    12. Dirk Nowitzki (Basketball)
    13. Rudi Völler (Fußball)
    14. Stefan Krtezschmar (Handball)
    15. Fritz Walter (Fussball)
    16. Juergen Klinsmann (Fussball)
    17. Ludger Beerbaum (Reiten)
    18. Sven Hannawald (Skispringen)
    19. Katharina Witt (Eiskunstlauf)
    20. Erich Zabel (Rad)

    More football players:
    21. Uwe Seeler
    27. Helmut Rahn
    28. Birgit Prinz
    29. Sepp Maier
    47. Nia Kuenzer
     
  2. PileD

    PileD New Member

    Nov 19, 2003
    Ruhrgebiet
    They are all great, make in their sports the best they could or can do.
    Difficould to pick one
     
  3. Stogey23

    Stogey23 Member+

    Dec 12, 1998
    San Diego, CA
    Where is Lothar, of the Hill People?
     
  4. rivellino1

    rivellino1 New Member

    Jun 13, 2004
    New York City
    How in the hell an effing race car driver ended up as the #1 athlete? What happened to you Germans? Can't produce an athlete without steroids?
     
  5. Mattbro

    Mattbro Member+

    Sep 21, 2001
    Good question. I can sit in a car for three hours every Sunday too. Where's my award?
     
  6. Mattbro

    Mattbro Member+

    Sep 21, 2001
    Of course they can. How about Nina Kraft who just won the Iron Man? Oh wait....
     
  7. herewego

    herewego Member

    Jun 1, 2004
    Mathematics / Statistics is the reason.

    There are 7 Footballers under the first 20. That shows how popular football is and it shows, how many footballers are big stars. But as a teamsport with 11 winners for every great success for every generation, it divides the decision of the football supporters in a public poll like this.
     
  8. arthur d

    arthur d Member

    Oct 17, 2004
    Cambridge England
    Yes, I was also surprised. Between 50th and 100th I think. The vote was also about personality apparently (err that's why Schumacher won). :rolleyes:
     
  9. arthur d

    arthur d Member

    Oct 17, 2004
    Cambridge England
    Maybe you shoud let one of the Formula one teams know, you might miss out on a lot of money here....
     
  10. arthur d

    arthur d Member

    Oct 17, 2004
    Cambridge England
    Good point. Still Birgit Fischer was a bit of a (positive *) surprise.

    * even more positive when she was still competing for East Germany. Sorry, bad joke.
     
  11. herewego

    herewego Member

    Jun 1, 2004
    Birgit Fischer is unique. She is obviously the most successful german athlet witht 8 Olympic Gold Medals, uncountable Worldchampionships, participation in 6 Olympic Games. Got gold at the age of 42?. So she earns to get much respect, even if her sport isn´t so mass media compatible.

    And she is the last famous GDR sportster who is still active so I think she got a lot of votes from the east.
     
  12. lamcam

    lamcam Member

    May 19, 2004
    California
    Is this list in present or in the past or all time? Rumenigge shoud be on the list!
     
  13. Dead Fingers

    Dead Fingers Moderator
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    Jan 22, 2004
    St. Paul, Minnesota
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Netzer not on the list?
     
  14. arthur d

    arthur d Member

    Oct 17, 2004
    Cambridge England
    I think he's also between 50 and 100, and so is Netzer. It's supposed to be all time best.
     
  15. Dead Fingers

    Dead Fingers Moderator
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    Jan 22, 2004
    St. Paul, Minnesota
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Thanks arthur
     
  16. jonam

    jonam Member

    Aug 27, 2003
    Westfalenstadion
  17. arthur d

    arthur d Member

    Oct 17, 2004
    Cambridge England
  18. arthur d

    arthur d Member

    Oct 17, 2004
    Cambridge England
    Where is Rummenigge? I thought he was in there as well, but I seem to have gone blind.

    Ah well, that's democracy for you. Like we saw when the Dutch voted Pim Fortuijn, a right wing politician, 2nd greatest Dutch person ever, in front of Erasmus, Rembrandt etc.
     
  19. Dead Fingers

    Dead Fingers Moderator
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    Jan 22, 2004
    St. Paul, Minnesota
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    People have no concept of "historical context" do they?
     
  20. Dead Fingers

    Dead Fingers Moderator
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    Jan 22, 2004
    St. Paul, Minnesota
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    I am off the mark here in saying that Lothar Mattheus should be ranked a little bit higher (disregarding his personality :eek: )

    Now there is a list for you --The top Worst (German) Football Personalities of all time. Add your suggestions ;)
     
  21. arthur d

    arthur d Member

    Oct 17, 2004
    Cambridge England
    Maybe you start a thread, this deserves more attention...

    for me, only going back till 1982

    1. Lothar Mattaeus
    2. Andi Moeller
    3. Toni Schumacher (but maybe I am overreacting to his bad foul in 1982)
    4. Joerg Boehme
    5. Oliver Kahn
     
  22. Dead Fingers

    Dead Fingers Moderator
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    Jan 22, 2004
    St. Paul, Minnesota
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Maybe

    Effenberg
    Basler
     
  23. Dead Fingers

    Dead Fingers Moderator
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    Jan 22, 2004
    St. Paul, Minnesota
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Lets get a list of about 30 or so then we will put up the list.
     
  24. arthur d

    arthur d Member

    Oct 17, 2004
    Cambridge England
    Oh god, I forgot about super Mario Basler. The man who said, asked what he thought about Milosevic, that we shouldn't worry about what happened in the Balkans 50 years ago. And this was back in 1997. One of the world's best Weissbier drinkers. I miss him.

    I miss Effenberg too. That's what's going wrong in Bayern, too many nice guys now. How can you ever win the Champions League with so many nice people? Just not possible to have the goalkeeper carry the complete responsibility for being offensive. Look at Man United, they know what they're doing, spreading unpleasantness evenly over the pitch.
     
  25. arthur d

    arthur d Member

    Oct 17, 2004
    Cambridge England
    Maybe Gregoriak can find some statistics for us...

    Actually I think it might have been done in other form already, 'which player do you hate most'.
     

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