I don’t mind Hummels back, he is in good form, but I don’t like seeing Schlotterbeck dropped, he has been pretty solid this season and has a high ceiling. I get things haven’t always been smooth with the NT so far for him, but that is partly down to Flick’s questionable defensive organisation/tactics. Fuhrich is fine, I like club performance being rewarded + with Gnabry injured we don’t have a ton of w options. Likewise Gross has continued to perform at a high level and did well v France, so would have been a surprise not to see him nominated. Goretzka recall no surprise either, no real point in dropping him in the first place tbh, as we lack m options. Can being left out likely means Kimmich starting at #6. Not convinced that is his best position, however it’s where he usually played under Nagelsmann.
fun fact Fuhrich is 1st Senior NT call up with 0 DFB YNT call ups since Robin Gosens. so way it went -0 DFB Caps at any levels=Gosens, Fuhrich, Wolf (had 1 U20 cap and that's it ) -Completely irrelevant at YNT=Gross (0 tourneys), Fullkrug (0 tourneys), Hofmann (0 tourneys) LOL the one who started this whole trend is one and only Jonas Hector back in 2014 who had 0 DFB Call ups. And then Halstenberg became the 2nd one with 0 DFB Call ups back in 2017. imagine Hector, Halstenberg, Gosens=all LBs. for some reason we seem to have dev a lot of late bloomer LBs. Hector was hero vs Italy in Euro 2016 and Gosens made waves in Euro 2020 GS for us. haha good news there is no longer the case with next gen LBs, so late bloomer LBs seems unlikely going forward. from the 8 players mentioned if one ignores Fuhrich only Wolf has shown nothing in NT from the list. And issue with him is that he's NOT an RB and never was and that's why I don't blame him. And Halstenberg was decent. and this is why I keep saying one should NEVER dismiss late bloomers or ones ignored by YNT. A lot of people forget that YNT ends pretty early aka even year birth at 22-23 and odd year birth at 21-22. Anyway one slices it, 21-23 is still very young some players jump to 1BL for 1st time at 23-25 and make giant strides too. A bit too many players show too much loyalty to 2BL clubs too or less we forget our annoying injury prone pool....... and one should ALWAYS ignore other NT we have a LONG history of calling up players in mid-20s-30s. Germany has almost never been youth crazy, just because we went that route in 2010 WC which is linked to the late 90s-00s players retiring from NT and that is what opened door fo wave of young players. But otherwise youth crazy is not really our thing. Young teams DON'T win tourneys either. What was it average age of winning teams is like 27 y/o or something. for all the LOVEFEST people have with France....they aren't a young team whatsoever -GKs=3/3=28-30 y/o -Def=8 players, 1 22 y/o+7 24-31 y/o -M=5 players, 21-28 y/o -Attack=7/7=25-37 y/o (I'm counting fact that both Muani and Mbappe turn 25 y/o in December and they are YOUNGEST of ALL attack) in terms of 2000-onwards birth, only 3 players called up, that's not very young team. This is likely to be similar to us, would presume that Thiaw, Musiala, Wirtz will make call ups tomorrow. Who knows if more than this or not.
USA called up 23 players and 8/23 aka a bit more than a 1/3 of those are poached players. and from those 8 both Maloney and Tillman are poached from Germany. so we may very well see them play vs us......
Seems to me now its Nagelsmann turn to tinker Its bloody simple do it like Voller --------!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Defend like hell - and we enough speed and quality upfront to score a few goals. That should be the recipe Thiaw should get ore time
I am a fan of Schlotterbeck but if we are being completely honest he has been horrible for the national team. Plenty of individual mistakes and penalties given away so I am ok with him being left out for the time being. Hummels call up is proof that Nagelsmann sole focus is the EM next summer and no one is caring much about the "long term" for now. Something we knew i guess considering the 10 months contract he signed.
https://www.reuters.com/sports/socc...anns-first-germany-squad-2023-10-06/?rpc=401& Confirmation of Hummels call up. I reckon it's a good move. Also delighted for Fuhrich call up. Nice to see for one performance related selection been shown. Werner misses out again.
I know it’s a small thing, but it’s good to see they have actually separated the categories for midfield & attack. Kind of points to the realisation that you actually need specialist CF’s, not just a squad full of midfielders. So who is most likely gonna be the RB? Hofmann, Groß or a CB like Tah or Sule?
Julian Nagelsmann:"With Nico Schlotterbeck, I see an extraordinary talent at the centre-back position, left-footed, is normally a player you can't do without. He just has to make sure that he brings maximum consistency to the club."#BVB pic.twitter.com/wO1SPFFoWz— BVB Newsblog (@bvbnewsblog) October 6, 2023
scratch that from that list I made now its more -0 DFB Caps at any levels=Gosens, Fuhrich, Wolf (had 1 U20 cap and that's it ), Behrens -Completely irrelevant at YNT=Gross (0 tourneys), Fullkrug (0 tourneys), Hofmann (0 tourneys), Andrich (0 tourneys) so if one adds Hector+Halstenberg we are now at 10 players in recent who were irrelevant to NT with 6/10 having 0 DFB call ups prior LOL. Andrich+Behrens call up is more proof we are Dark Times 2.0.
so yeah Nagelsmann is a huge fan of Schlotterbeck and even says "normally a player you can't do without" I expect will be there in November.
Nagelsmann -on CF Behrens........strong in air but he's only 1.84-85m tall........ Sounds like bench CF tbh. Nagelsmann on Kevin Behrens: "We wanted another striker who's strong in the air so that we could react to different scenarios. We'll see how he performs in training. He is a very good guy who always wants to win and also does a lot of work defensively. He makes very, very good runs, but is also good in the air when we face opponents who defend deep and we still need a goal at the end. He is very present in the box and binds a lot of opponents - which means his teammates can also score goals, not just himself." -on DM Andrich Nagelsmann on Robert Andrich: "We wanted a different profile at the #6 position. He's someone who can be incredibly active defensively and be a bit of a destroyer. He has an exceptional winning mentality and a sense of responsibility defensively when we need to hold on to a result. And yet he also plays a good role going forward in Leverkusen. He also has an excellent coach there (Xabi Alonso) who puts him in good spaces. That's why I think it will be a very good debut for him" -on W Fuhrich Nagelsmann on Chris Führich: "He has very, very good momentum right now. He's an excellent 1v1 player and has scored many goals for Stuttgart. Momentum is an important point for the national team. You have to call up the players who are currently at a performance peak and give them the chance. The phone call was very, very refreshing because he was incredibly happy. It will be good for us to have new faces in training who will have a sparkle in their eyes when they play an international match. We're looking forward to it" -on Hummels return Julian Nagelsmann on his decision to bring Mats Hummels back: "Mats is a player with a lot of experience. And that's also what we want to see. He has an excellent build-up play. Against teams that defend deep, we need players who have the courage to take risks and play line breaking passes into the midfield in order to create numerical advantage upfront. He has a great understanding of the game and can coach and lead his teammates on the pitch with his experience"
interesting to see how almost every call up plays in Europe minus Leno, Baumann, Fuhrich. Not sure why Leno is here, its like DFB can't let him go, fixation to max.....every coach wants him.....he's never looked good playing for Germany....don't get. as for Fullkrug+Behrens, I'm fine if that's who plays Euro 2024. Nmecha is always injured and looks out until Jan and Berisha needs to get his shit together. Other older CFs in 1BL need to pick it up if they want to be candidates. Plus it buys time for the younger CFs to dev in peace no pressure NONE are ready for Senior NT for this season.
In terms of CF pool, I agree it would be wrong to expect too much/put pressure on players like Beier, Moukoko or Weiper, they all need time to develop with the u21’s. In terms of others in with a chance, Berisha could still have a shot if he can find his form, and same goes for Werner & Adeyemi if they can get back on track. Schade too maybe? We could do with some more pace in the squad. Having both Fullkrug & Behrens playing CL this season is a real plus.
yeah we can't dismiss someone like Werner as his speed vs tired legs is not something that exists in this current squad. Schade has had injury issues for like 2 seasons now it sucks because he was starting to click in EPL too. Adeyemi at least can still gain match practice and confidence in U21 so not too bad for him. Terzic seems to want him to do well. Edin Terzic: "Karim is not finding it quite so easy at the moment. He is still a young player who will learn a lot. He brings a lot with him. Now it's a matter of mastering this phase together. That is his responsibility and ours. It's all about diligence and hard work."
"If you look back over the last few years, you can say that I've actually always improved. I've gotten faster when it comes to understanding the game. My first touch is better. I believe that I can assess situations better and faster. As a result, I'm often in a better position than I was a year or two ago." - Behrens on blossoming into his 30s one should always remember that dev doesn't really end for most players, always something to improve on or work on. Guy admits he's better in his 30s than during his prime years, LOL.
on topic of Werner I do hope he can get back into it. if one recalls peak Werner was under Nagelsmann's tutelage too which was 2019-2020 season aka the only season the 2 were together.
on Adeyemi, doesn't sound like U21 is long term for him. Still nice committment/mentality from him even with downgrade. “In close coordination with Julian Nagelsmann and BVB, we decided to nominate Karim for the U21,” said Di Salvo, according to a statement on Friday. “Karim didn’t hesitate for a second and immediately saw the opportunity to not only gain match practice and self-confidence with us, but also to take on responsibility and move forward.” Di Salvo emphasized the “common goal” that “he contributes to the success of the U21 with good performances and thus plays an important role again at Borussia Dortmund and in the senior national team as quickly as possible.”
Our Beloved ex coach Joachim Low “The next big problem in Germany is - and I find this serious and sometimes I can't hear it anymore: when some trainers or so-called experts always point to the German virtues: fighting spirit, enthusiasm, passion. This is a fatal message to football fans and everyone else. [.. ] We in Germany have to make tactical and technical progress. We have to start there. Winning through playful accents – that is the content. If anyone thinks today that we can win games with German virtues, they are very much mistaken. And I hear that far too often, that these virtues are valued. If anyone believes that the players who play in the national team don't show enough commitment and fighting spirit, they are very much mistaken. That is not the core of the problem. These players coordinate their entire daily routine around football. They are professionals through and through. [.. ] These players always want to win. And they need other solutions than saying you have to fight more. That is not the cause of the entire problem. And Germany is lagging behind.” LMAO, what an idiot you NEED BOTH technical skills-tactical and German traits. Why does this clown want to act like its one or the other???? The German 2014 WC winners had both and we even saw it in final vs Argentina. The CC17 squad who won had both. The u21 double recent winners, the U17 Euro Summer Champs also showed both. To win titles you NEED BOTH. WTF is he on about where the ******** were the German traits and mentality from 2018-2022? All everyone saw was PISS POOR MENTALITY and ATTITUDE and 0 leaders on field and very very messy all around. we beat France in friendly last month due to BOTH. In WC22 we should have beaten Spain in GS and it was like rare time Flick played both. and he says all this but ignores that between 2018-2022 were the frick was the skills? High Line+Neverending passing is not something to be proud of LOL. the ONLY thing Low was right about was that he should have retired after WC14, LMAO. Low is sounding like someone who is like frick tradition, culture, history......"I'm a modern person."LMAO cringe.