Germany - Sweden /-- 23 June -- 2nd Group Game

Discussion in 'Germany: National Teams' started by White/Blue_since1860, Jun 17, 2018.

  1. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    imagine, when Low quits NT job post 2022 WC, Kovac takes his place.:ROFLMAO::cry:

    Tedesco signed on until 2019
    Tuchel signed only 2 years with PSG until 2020,
    Klopp is signed with Liverpool until 2022
    Nagelsmann signed with RB until 2023

    less favorable, Hecking, Herrlich,Schmidt are all open by 2019.

    or maybe Rangnick leaves RB and takes over.
     
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  2. Boandlkramer

    Boandlkramer Member+

    Apr 9, 2009
    Samma Weltmeister!
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The finishing problem is still there....I’m hoping things gel soon....
     
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  3. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Virginia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Our players recovery runs are night and day from the mexico match.
     
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  4. Rac93

    Rac93 Member

    Bayern Munich
    Germany
    Sep 29, 2017
    Could Havertz be that guy?
     
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  5. bayern is god

    bayern is god Member+

    May 26, 2007
    india
    Reus....Werner.....Brandt
    .......Kroos...Gundo.........
    .............Rudy...................
    Hect.....................Kimmi
    .......Rudiger...Sule..........

    Has to be the Starting 11 for Korea.
     
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  6. Boandlkramer

    Boandlkramer Member+

    Apr 9, 2009
    Samma Weltmeister!
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    RUN.UP.THE.SCORE
     
  7. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    although they both can play CM, AM and are similar height. Havertz's playing style as of now is closer to someone like Ozil. But who knows, he's still only a kid, he could later end up being closer to Ballack when he develops more and gets experience.
     
  8. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Virginia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Just finished the replay. Özils face at the end was hilarious. He did not give a shit that we won. I don’t think he ever plays for Germany again.

    I honestly wonder if he suffers from depression like Deisler.
     
  9. Boandlkramer

    Boandlkramer Member+

    Apr 9, 2009
    Samma Weltmeister!
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    The Political “sh*tstorm” May have affected his state of mind?
     
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  10. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I thought Reus's face when Kroos scored was hilarious, like he didn't expect it to go in.

    at this rate, we seem headed towards Ozil, Khedira, Gomez gone, Draxler should join them too. I think it's for the best, time for the next gen to bring their game. Integrate Havertz, Gnabry and Sane to the NT. Gomez being gone, opens up his spot to those strikers who did well this past season. Khedira is just a corpse.

    Hummels and Boa also seem headed towards being done.
     
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  11. Boandlkramer

    Boandlkramer Member+

    Apr 9, 2009
    Samma Weltmeister!
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    If Gomez was kept for his locker room presence, I think there could have been better options.

    However, the tone of the game changed when he subbed in.

    I know, correlation /= to causation
     
  12. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Virginia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    What better options? Gomez is a good traditional striker.
     
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  13. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    who else? He's been in the NT since 2007, only tournament hes ever missed was the WC14 because of injury. Decades of 1BL, CL, NT experience.

    he did change the game. Werner became a ton more efficient playing off of him, everyone became better when he came on. Gomez always draws defenders to him like a magnet, which opens up space. He has a more physical aspect to his game that the other players lack.

    look at Stuttgart, once he went there this season, they went from almost relegation to almost making EL. Made a huge difference even when he doesn't score.
     
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  14. Boandlkramer

    Boandlkramer Member+

    Apr 9, 2009
    Samma Weltmeister!
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Let me start by saying I was one of the posters on BS battling against the pejoratives lobbed at him while he was with us.

    He really is the last man standing isn’t he?

    He just seems so soft spoken in his interviews.
     
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  15. Ger90

    Ger90 Member+

    May 13, 2016
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    People hate the guy excessively. I admit he didn't do well for a stretch of time for the NT but it seems like he got better for Germany the older he got....like most strikers do. One has to remember that Gomez started the NT at the same age Werner did, where there is still a ton of room to grow and develop. And he's still the most successful German striker in recent years.

    always rooted for him and glad to see him make the WC.

    he does have leadership skills, was the captain of Wolfsburg before he left.
     
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  16. Chavy

    Chavy New Member

    Manchester City
    Germany
    Jun 17, 2018
    Id play Gomez up top in the next game and Werner on the wing/behind as they play for their clubs and leave Brant as a super sub.

    Too much of the ball is crossed high by Kimmich and is wasted without a target man.

    Id play with Rudy in defensive midfield with Kroos, against a stronger opponent id add some defensive solidity Gundagon or physhicality Grotzeka.

    Gundagon though I fear, lacks his old magic after his injuries, is slow to get back, chooses the wrong options and too many sideway or back passess.

    For the goal, Kroos again did not fully track back after giving the ball away, but did much better than last time, Rudiger who has pace/strength but positionally unwise was too slow to come around, ultimately though was unlucky as did get the block in, the ball looping over the keeper.

    If I recall correctly, Kroos also allowed an opposition player to escape on the Swedish chance just before half time which Neuer saved.

    Muller showed more promise but still not enough, id give him one more chance against Korea.

    Gomez
    Werner Muller Reus
    Kroos
    Rudy
    Hector Hummels Rudiger Kimmich
     
  17. nekkibasara

    nekkibasara Member+

    Apr 12, 2004
    Fairfax, Virginia
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Kimmich played only 5-6 high crosses all match against Sweden.
     
  18. White/Blue_since1860

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    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
  19. Chavy

    Chavy New Member

    Manchester City
    Germany
    Jun 17, 2018
    Generally most of our attacks come down the right, Kimmich is a good crosser of the ball, it stifles our attack when he either delivers the ball into the box without a target man or cuts back as lacks that option in the box.

    So Gomez though I dont rate him highly provides an ariel or physhical presence in the box which we otherwise lack.
     
  20. White/Blue_since1860

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    Germany
    Imo Erner for you guys


    "After the 0:1 we were out. I think you can say that our heads did not get higher again than the height of our knees. I bitter moment considering we should be leading 2-0 or 3-0 at this point."

    "During half time he (Löw) got a little bit louder but not negatively. He realized we were in the game playing well and that it was a mistake that had lead to the goal."

    "It was pure relief. Every player who came into the dressing room yelled their heads off. Some could not even speak any more because... I do not know how to say it .... I almost started crying on the pitch because it was so awesome!

    "This has to be the turning point. If we do not take this as the occasion to move forward and ride through this tournament then this win today was all in vain."
     
  21. White/Blue_since1860

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    German commentary

    Toni Kroos sinks the thing, 2-1, sinks Sweden! I'll be damned! I'll be damned!

     
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  22. Boandlkramer

    Boandlkramer Member+

    Apr 9, 2009
    Samma Weltmeister!
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
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    Germany
    #597 Boandlkramer, Jun 24, 2018
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  23. White/Blue_since1860

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    The more you know

    German does not, however, have a word for self-consciousness. The closest relation is selbstbewusstsein, the same as the word for confidence, its opposite. As Raphael Honigstein notes in Das Reboot, his account of the footballing reforms that led to Germany’s triumph in 2014: “[Germans] don’t see the contradiction – to be aware of yourself is to be confident.”

    https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...ee-kick-limitations-joachim-low-a8414071.html
     
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  24. albert_mk87

    albert_mk87 Member+

    Aug 27, 2008
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I hope Low now sees his mistake, he is getting a second chance now. He benched ozil and khedira a great move, now he needs to bench Draxler and Boateng(he cannot play anyway). Most of these players play because of past glory and name and not because of current form. Even Muller is close to being benched for me. Low should have called and/or integrated players like Brandt,Sane,Goretzka even Gnabry in the team in the qualis instead of pushing the same dead weight ozil,khedira,draxler and co.

    Kimmich-Sule-hummels-hector
    ------goretzka--Kroos--Gundogan
    Muller/Brandt--Werner-----reus

    Maybe rudy for goretzka/gundogan and let kroos have more freedom going forward
     
  25. Nightcrawler

    Nightcrawler Member

    May 21, 2016
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    Borussia Mönchengladbach

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