German Fraulein National Team 2020 & beyond

Lohmann · Feb 17, 2022

Unsere Start-11 gegen Spanien 🔥

➡️ Ab 15:30 Uhr LIVE 📲 https://t.co/rZk85Jdcwq

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Klingo3034 · Feb 17, 2022

hotjam2 said: ↑

looks like no new Covid cases reported. My busy schedule prevents me from watching the Spain match in real time, but if it’s geo blocked, I read this site is where you can watch if

FA player(just google search)

no fee or spam involved but you got to register

from viewing some of the action yesterday; Germany’s upcoming Euro/group; Finland got destroyed by France 5-0, Denmark lost to Italy 1-0. From watching the Danes play; while they were missing Harder & Nadim, it felt like they just don’t go deep enough for anybody to take their place. Twice they got behind Italy’s defense, only to flub their final shot(both should of been for sure goals). And then interesting enough, it was Svava that was their main creative force(yet the same Svava that flopped at Wolfsburg)

another interesting match; #10 ranked Norway loosing to Portugal, 2-0. Here again shows an squad that they just don’t go deep enough if their two main stars were missing(Hansen & Hegerberg). Meantime it’s fair to say ‘direct soccer’ has finally arrived in Europe!(or what was I watching the last 20 minutes of the game?)/Jessica Silva’s speed was phenomenal in this one. But Germany’s 3-1 win over Portugal then does seem impressive in comparison(though Silva did get the PK call in that one)

and finally poor Dutch, as Miedema & Groenen have apparently lost their mojo for good(Miedema hasn’t scored in ages:Groenen don’t even start for Man U anymore)
But luckily saved from defeat by……Beerensteyn(of all people!)
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Just tried to watch it on FA player and it’s not showing up.

hotjam2 · Feb 17, 2022

Klingo3034 said: ↑

Just tried to watch it on FA player and it’s not showing up.
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by bad for suggesting FA player

it's on
17.02. | DFB-Frauen gegen Spanien, ab 15:30 Uhr - Nationalmannschaft (Frauen) - Fußball - sportschau.de
and not geo blocked

overall, Germany hanging in there, 0-0 halftime against Spain/s Barca dominated squad,

Batfink · Feb 17, 2022

I'll be watching the game later, but I guess this will be Germany's heat map for the 90mins versus Spain...

Ughhhh, not looking forward to seeing the awful 90 mins of kick and chase, as the team selection for this game just looks like more hot garbage...

Klingo3034 · Feb 17, 2022

Batfink said: ↑

I'll be watching the game later, but I guess this will be Germany's heat map for the 90mins versus Spain...

Ughhhh, not looking forward to seeing the awful 90 mins of kick and chase, as the team selection for this game just looks like more hot garbage...
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Wow that’s unlike Germany!

Klingo3034 · Feb 17, 2022

hotjam2 said: ↑

by bad for suggesting FA player

it's on
17.02. | DFB-Frauen gegen Spanien, ab 15:30 Uhr - Nationalmannschaft (Frauen) - Fußball - sportschau.de
and not geo blocked

overall, Germany hanging in there, 0-0 halftime against Spain/s Barca dominated squad,
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Thank you so much!

hotjam2 · Feb 17, 2022

With Dallmann-Magull-Dabritz, Germany has no muscle in the middle, Hopefully Freigang, Cerci & possibly Linder upfront as right now there’s no speed on the counters

hotjam2 · Feb 17, 2022

Uh, Spain scores within 30 seconds…and who made the error…Oberdorf

Lohmann · Feb 17, 2022

Oberdorf with a great assist!

Klingo3034 · Feb 17, 2022

There hardly anyone in attendance, pretty surprised considering the teams playing. You think there be German and Spanish fans there in England.

hotjam2 · Feb 17, 2022

Kleineheme & Anyomi in, not what I was hoping for, but at least Oberdorf been moved up to defensive mid

hotjam2 · Feb 17, 2022

The Calvary has arrived! Cerci & Freigang, but not Spain wasted 5 minutes more of the clock due to the zero pressing Germans

Lohmann · Feb 17, 2022

Schüller shocks Batfink!

Lohmann · Feb 17, 2022

MVT is happy!

hotjam2 · Feb 17, 2022

at least an tie in an game dominated by Spain. Again must be said; MVT needs two real CB’s! and needs to take chains off the players instead of the ball control mentality she’s got them wrapped up in.

Klingo3034 · Feb 17, 2022

Watching first half, very uneventful and players look a little slow.

Batfink · Feb 17, 2022

It seems Germany barley touched the ball for 70 something minutes, yet @hotjam2 manages to contrive this into the narrative Germany passes the ball too much...

Without having seen this match, just using starting teams, and end game stats, I'm going to say your analysis of games will continue to be garbage when it comes to Germany...

Batfink · Feb 17, 2022

I see Kleinherne comes into this match, making me believe Oberdorf's latest errors at CB forced the morons... sorry national coaches to rectify their dumbest error, and finally place Oberdorf back into the mid-field...?

At this point, I have ZERO respect for MVT as a head coach, but going into a match versus Spain's CM trio of Bonmati - Patri - Alexia, not understanding why starting Oberdorf alongside Däbritz - Magull important, wow!

Oh, and Cerci makes her debut too... but I'm guessing it's stuck out wide as an ineffectual wide attacker...? I'll find the latest batch of excuses coming from the fraud of a head coach, but if this game looks as bad as the stats makes it seem...

Thomsen · Feb 17, 2022

Where can I watch the game?

Batfink · Feb 17, 2022

It should be unacceptable thinking a German wnt headed to a Euro finals with no belief they can actually win it. But even worse, I'm seeing post match MVT describing her opponents as the new bench mark in women's football now..., completely ignoring how she's probably a big reason why the standards or her own team have fallen so damn low lol.

Anyway... MVT not putting her best possible CM trio against Spain's CM trio, she's basically confirmed herself the genuine fraud I originally imagined lol. Because I think only a truly incompetent coach unable to recognize the heartbeat of Spain's team Bonmati - Patri - Alexia.

I mean Dabritz as a DM, with an overworked Magull, and the often invisible Dallmann supporting. lol... you have to be wearing clown shoes to think this would ever make sense, and yet we've seen this awful approach for multiple disappointing performances; with MVT somehow thinking this the smart approach to use against a much stronger Spain...

Batfink · Feb 17, 2022

No excuses about missing players. After the initial 15-20 mins of the 1st half, where Germany aggressively kept trying to retain a high press, allowing them to create a few clear chances. This just regressed into another disappointingly inept tactical display from MVT.

Spain looking so comfortable for most of the match, you saw their FB's become wingers, while Germany's wide forwards forced back into being emergency FB's. It took a full 70 mins before MVT addressed the gapping hole at the heart of her team, and by then this game had already exposed the biggest issues holding this group of players back.

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Buhl --- Magull --- Däbritz --- Dallmann --- Brand
--- Gwinn --- Oberdorf --- Feldkamp ---- Rall -----
This should never be reasonable long term approach for Germany during a friendly...

Batfink · Feb 17, 2022

Oberdorf's defensive error for Spain's goal shouldn't be a shock either, as anybody watching her early season form looking uncomfortable in a CB role for a struggling Wolfsburg, should understand how limited she is in this role.

But seeing the last 15 mins of Däbritz coming to life, with the rest of the team finally moving out of it's defensive shell, I'd like to believe that was the last time one of Germany's best players forced to sacrifice their own game, for no obvious/clear benefit for the rest of the team.

Oh... whoever watches a game where Spain dominates all the possession, and somehow comes to the conclusion it a direct result of Germany passing the ball too much... , I can't take you seriously.

hotjam2 · Feb 17, 2022

Thomsen said: ↑

Where can I watch the game?
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here's the English version

hotjam2 · Feb 18, 2022

I finally watched the first half(only saw the 2nd half, live yesterday). If you go by the English commentators; Germany didn’t look half bad, even congratulated them for hanging in there (as we know, Spain is currently the darling of the snob/elites).
Personally I hated seeing MVT build sort of an defensive fort of an rectangular, 4-back in support of an 5-straight line upfront with only 10 meters separating the two lines. Unfortunately, with No clear wingers, AM & DM’s(since they were all part of an straight line) it left them tied a bit when Germany did finally manage to retrieve the ball & counter(since there was so much extra ground to cover when on the attack).
Obviously MVT’s little fort she build was meant to stop the passing lanes of the Spanish players. But by the start of the 2nd half, their coach adjusted their tactics to high balling it over MVT’s fort/2 defensive lines, and thus started an half hour of complete domination by the Spaniards(as MVT refused to change her own tactics.
I felt also what hurt; MVT must of ordered Buhl, Brand & Schuller NOT to take on/beat the Spanish defenders(all 3 are especially good at this)
MVT insisted in controlling the ball, instead of clearing/booting the ball out of the danger zones when deep inside her own territory(this led to loosing the ball anyways after a few passss)
And of course no matter how many mistakes she makes, MVT’s blind insistence of using Oberdorf as an CB, as well as 3 creative mids instead 1-2 more physical ones(like Wolfsburg’s Oberdorf/Lattwein combo)

But it is what it is(I mean MVT is coach, all the whining in the world isn’t going to change that)
At least it proved that Germany goes very deep(the fresh legs of Freigang , Anyomi & Cerci made an difference) and remember; Spain started with 9 Barca players whereas we were missing Wolfsburg’s/MVT only had an day to get her players used to her methodical tactics whereas Spain aka Barca been together for years!

Batfink; instead of dissecting & insulting everything I say. Why don’t you tell us what your game plan would of been vs Spain(that’s what I really would be interested to know)

Batfink · Feb 18, 2022

@hotjam2 It's not elitism when fans of the sport show respect, or admiration, for a really good teams proficiently in displaying the most difficult aspects of the sport.

Just listen to how demoralizing it was for the English commentators witnessing their league leading Arsenal team rendered completely ineffective against Barca in the WUCL.

Back then hey thought English football the summit of European women's football, but felt stupid after witnessing a completely different level of quality to what they previously understood as elite; and now as a result have a very different level of respect for Spanish women's football.