Georg Heitz Career Deathwatch

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  1. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    I've always wanted to make one of these!
     
  2. skinut

    skinut Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 25, 2000
    Castle Pines, CO (or often elsewhere on earth)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Curses! You beat me to it.
     
  3. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Won't be long now...

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  4. White/Blue_since1860

    Orange14 is gay
    Jan 4, 2007
    Bum zua City
    Club:
    TSV 1860 München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    Heitz comes from heizen which means to heat or to stoke so I guess he's a fit
     
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  5. goldclover

    goldclover Member+

    Mar 25, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    So what I gather from the preview guessing from you guys is that this new guy Heitz is very good and finding young talent but is going to likely have a hard time with the MLS kind of rules. Is this the accurate prediction of y'all? That being said...I think it could be worse and am glad this phase is over and maybe some real shit can happen soon like...coach and roster.
     
  6. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    It is "worse;" Nelson Rodriguez is still around.
     
  7. If you are trying to find young *talent in the MLS you are going to have a hard time.




    *actual talent, not potential... or what qualified in the MLS as talent
     
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  8. goldclover

    goldclover Member+

    Mar 25, 2010
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    I was thinking finding young talent...anywhere.
     
  9. Mac97

    Mac97 Member+

    Jul 15, 2014
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    Chicago Fire
    Well, we have three international slots availible.
    That was very much an issue last year.

    Is Edwards ever gonna get a green card?
     
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  10. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Wait, are Canadian player still not considered Domestic?
     
  11. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    MLS rules can be learned with some quick study. Having an eye for talent can't.
     
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  12. Fighting Illini

    Fighting Illini Member+

    Feb 6, 2014
    Chicago
    MLS rules also change, whereas an eye for talent doesn't.
     
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  13. TyrusRose

    TyrusRose Member+

    chicago fire
    North Korea
    Jun 17, 2019
    Nelson who allegedly knows all the ins and outs of MLS rules did ******** all. I wouldn't worry about him "mastering" the rules or not. As long as he understands them it's fine.
     
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  14. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    And it's not like former MLS players are all that knowledgeable about the overcomplicated roster setups either when they first enter the management side of things. Guys like Chris Henderson had to learn those ropes too.
     
  15. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I find it hard to believe that this sonofabitch has not made a SINGLE personnel move yet.

    What they hell is waiting for, a Christmas miracle?

    Sheesh.
     
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  16. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    For the record (and snark aside), I like this hire.
    They hired someone relatively young, but experienced and someone who is not completely foreign to MLS.

    I am, of course, skeptical, but I am optimistic about the hire.

    “I’m honored to join Chicago Fire FC,” said Heitz. “I made the decision to join the Club after many inspiring discussions with Joe Mansueto and Nelson Rodríguez.”

    I wonder if Nelson Rodriguez can be "inspiring." I haven't see that.

    “I believe in the vision of this Club. I am very much looking forward to living in Chicago and I can’t wait to get started.”

    Please let us know that "vision," Herr Heitz, as we certainly cannot figure it out.

    https://www.chicagofirefc.com/post/2019/12/20/chicago-fire-fc-names-georg-heitz-sporting-director
     
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  17. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    A newly acquired rich guy funding the team telling him "build and spend as you please". God knows that's what I'd want in my job too.
     
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  18. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    That is not really a "vision,' though.
     
  19. TyrusRose

    TyrusRose Member+

    chicago fire
    North Korea
    Jun 17, 2019
    I absolutely love how he talks about owning possession. Those here who are also on Reddit probably know how often I've said, "if you have the ball, the other team can't score." Pauno talked a good game, but he never truly encouraged such a style of play. I really hope Heitz can get a guy to give us that kind of style.
     
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  20. Jiggly_333

    Jiggly_333 Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Mar 8, 2015
    Corner of Bedlam and Squalor (It's that way ->)
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    But having the ball means you're more likely to make mistakes.

    I'm just being contradictory here. I like counter-attacking teams.
     
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  21. Pennsylvania Dave

    Jul 31, 2012
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Congratulations! I haven't had the pleasure either and I was SO GLEEFUL when I hopped on here and saw it had been taken care of already. TCB baby! Well done!

    If you are the guy charged with the task of signing players, having an owner who gives you a blank check IS a vision!

    I haven't seen this quote. Do you have a link? I hope they play possession style. A team that controls the ball usually wins. I thought Basti single handedly changed the kick and run 2017 Fire to a Possession based club and those paying attention would agree with me. You really need guys who are cool on the ball and have to get all 11 dudes to buy into making the simple easy pass. See my tag at the bottom regarding the Shankly quote.
    As a player who had coaches who wanted both I can say I absolutely DETESTED playing on counter attacking teams. You just run and chase then boot it upfield hoping for a goal and 95% of the time are right back to defending. Having control of the ball even if it's meaningless passing around the back line makes a game much more enjoyable not only as a player but as a fan IMHO.
     
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  22. bunge

    bunge BigSoccer Supporter

    Oct 24, 2000
    This is absolutely not true.
     
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  23. Mac97

    Mac97 Member+

    Jul 15, 2014
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Youth...
     
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  24. CMeszt

    CMeszt Member+

    Farewell Sweet Prince
    Jan 9, 2004
    Gentrification's Apex.
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    You clearly have never seen my exploits at the Fire Pitch or CFA.
     
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  25. lethargytartare

    lethargytartare Member+

    Oct 2, 2000
    Magrathea, Horsehead Nebula
    Club:
    Yeovil Town FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    that's bad high school counterattacking. Or 1970s English everything. Orghanized defending with fluid, incisive counter attacking, is as beautiful to me as any tiki taka out there. Ideally, you can do both as the need arises.

     
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