General Transfer Thread II [R]

I didn't say I wish they would look at the Balkans more "instead" of Poland.

They can keep looking at Poland, I just wish they would look at the Balkans more too.

Shit, I even wish they would look at North America for young players who can be groomed in our youth system.

We need to start signing players from all over the world, not just from one or two areas.

Kagawa was a good start. Let's keep it going.

 

LOL!! Very funny dude!!

It was a bit of a shame for us that Valdez didn't score last night.

Maybe he'll blame the vuvuzelas too!

 

Florian Kringe: Dortmund’s 2.2M Euro Problem






He has gone from a source of hope for the club to being put on the shelf. Such is the grand fall of 27-year old Florian Kringe. Kringe still has a contract with BVB valid through the end of the 2012 season, but no future under current BVB coach Jürgen Klopp….


Dortmund’s 2.2M Euro Problem! No One Wants To Buy Kringe!!!


The Main Issue: The midfielder, who was loaned to Hertha BSC Berlin this past season, is one of BVB’s top salary earners at 2.2M Euros per season. On top of that, he’s been injury-prone recently as he’s suffered two different broken foot injuries in the past eight months. He’s currently in rehabilitation after the second broken foot injury.


If no new club is interested in Kringe, he’s stuck on BVB’s books. And then??


BVB Sport Director Michael Zorc says: “Florian’s situation is not easy. We had a very frank discussion in which we informed him that we want to move forward with younger players like Nuri Sahin and Kevin Grosskreutz. It would be best for “Flo” (Kringe) to find a new challenge.”


Last season, Dortmund and Hertha split Kringe’s salary. If no new club is found, after Kringe’s recovery, BVB has to play Kringe’s entire salary.


Borussia and their 2.2 million Euro problem – a pretty warped situation….


Click here for the original story in German at the “Bild” website.

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My comments: Is it just me or was it not that long ago when people such as Uli Hoeness were calling Kringe “a future Germany international?”

I mean, how did this guy go from being one of the faces of the club to someone who shouldn’t let the door hit him in the ass on his way out so quickly??

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I should have thought of that myself! LOL!!

 

I don't "blame" Doll for what he did with Ricken, Brenzska and Kruska. Ricken was long done and both Brzenska and Kruska wasn't ever going to get better than they already were.

However, I do "blame" Doll (and Zorc) for the loaning out of Sahin and the BVB demise of Martin Amedick.

Disagree. I believe Kringe was always important to Doll because he was also important to management.

Kringe's BVB demise came under Klopp and with the emergence of Grosskreutz. And it was Kringe's own fault.

Kringe was always overhyped.

I think you're wrong and babbling here as you said. That year at Feyenoord did wonders for Sahin's development and turned out to be better for him than would have been another inconsistent year at BVB.

I believe had Bert van Marwijk (BvM) remained BVB's coach, Sahin would be the kind of international superstar people thought he was going to become.

Sahin is heading toward stardom again, but as a very different type of player.

Between the time Ottmar Hitzfeld left and the time Jürgen Klopp was hired, BVB had one coach who could truly develop talent at the Bundesliga level.

BvM.

I don't believe any other coach, including Klopp, could have taken a limited player such as David Odonkor and turn him into a Germany international.

Odonkor could do one thing before BvM got to him. Run. That was it.

BvM taught him how to add crossing to his speed and the best ways to use his speed.

Taught him so well that a player who can do two things got to go to the World Cup.

I think we're going to wind up stuck with Kringe.

No one is going to buy him while he's still recovering from injury.

I don't know if BVB will want to spend the money to try to buy him out of his contract, which still has two seasons to run.

I believe BVB is probably hoping Kringe just asks to be released from his contract with either a low payment or no payment so he can just move on.

I believe Michael Meier would love to have Kringe at Koln, but isn't going to pay for him.

I don't think so. Feulner was always going to be nothing more than a backup for Kuba and Hajnal.

I believe they signed Kagawa with an eye on him replacing Hajnal I think if Kagawa works out, Hajnal will be the one facing the end.

 

I think you are too quick to believe and go into despair.


I really doubt there's much fact in this article.


But if this did happen, I can't blame BVB for telling an English club they want 10M Euros for Valdez.

10M Euros is nothing for many English clubs.

However, I doubt this article is correct because if Valdez has a good World Cup for Paraguay, his stock will just rise.

It would make no sense for BVB to put a price on him now.

However, I do believe one thing in the article. I do believe there is Premiership interest in Valdez.

His game would fit that league very well. And I hope BVB will have a real opportunity to cash in on Valdez while keeping Barrios.

 

Doll never had a problem with Kringe. I don't know what has you thinking that.

Kringe's problems started with the change to Klopp's way of playing.

BVB won't keep him and let him do nothing. If they can't sell him, they'll loan him out or buy him out.

That "gossip" would seem to be pretty silly to me.

Why would Magath want sorry ass Hajnal when he's already got two better and younger players for that position on his roster in Rakitic and Baumjohann??

Well, nothing has been proven to be true about that report yet. They had no real proof.

 

Not correct. Doll had just as much input as did van Marwijk.


van Marwijk was solely responsible for our picking up Ebi Smolarek. He was also responsible for Matthew Amoah and Cedric van der Gun, but we also have to remember that he had no money to spend.


From what I've been told by pretty good sources, Doll was the major factor in BVB getting Mats Hummels and did have a large say in the acquisition of Mladen Petric.


It was knucklehead Zorc who wanted Petric to be a playmaking central midfielder.


I think Klopp has done better with his input because he's more competent in talent eval than Doll was, although Doll was not bad.


I think van Marwijk was just as good as Klopp, if not better at talent eval. I do believe van Marwijk is much better at talent development.


But again, the major difference is that van Marwijk had no money to work with.


I still marvel at how he got us into the top 7 two seasons in a row with two unhappy Czechs and a bunch of nobodies.


What you have to remember is that the common denominator here is Michael Zorc.


Zorc still has major input and he's the one whose ability to evaluate talent I have doubts about.


But he has improved. He has gotten better. It would be unfair for me not to mention that.

 

Zorc is a very nice man. He isn't "it" in terms of our scouting system, but he is the boss and therefore is the one who sets their priorities.

As I said in a previous message, Zorc has gotten better over the years.

And at least here in Germany, it is my experience that the best sport directors/general managers are usually former players.

I used to say of both Doll and Sammer that they would make better executives than coaches. Sammer is proving that with the DFB.

I think the team that eventually gives Thomas Doll a sport director job will have made a great move.

Do you mean "The Balkans?"

You were not wrong at all. I said not long ago that I wish BVB would check out the Balkans more.

However, I think what might be deterring BVB is that everyone knows about that region and players there don't come "cheaply" anymore.

 

And Dzeko is one of the reasons even some of the lower clubs know they can get paid for their talents.

It's not like shopping at the Wal-Mart down there.

I didn't say all of them were too expensive, but things have changed in even just the past two years.

 

Actually, I think it might. He had a good match the one time they won.

Against Germany.