Gaza Thread Discussion Part IV

Discussion in 'International News' started by Ismitje, Jan 15, 2009.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh, so now the Palestinians are Philistines.

    Didn't some rock swinging Jewish kid put an end to that horseshit a long time ago?
     
  2. bigINTERNETTOUGHGUY

    Jan 25, 2008
    Chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The word Palestine has been around, not the concept of a Palestinian identity. There's a difference. "Palestine" was the name given by the Romans to the region that encompassed Judea and Israel. It was later adopted by the Arab conquerors.

    Nice try though.
     
  3. sahbekham_pactwinner

    Jun 12, 2005

    People living in Palestine are Palestinian people.................. How hard is this concept to understand?

    So we have established that there has been

    Palestine in 1 AD
    Palestine in 500 AD
    PALESTINE IN 1000 AD
    Palestine in 1500 AD
    Palestine in 2000 AD


    And not as you claimed that the Palestine came to about 1920'S. And don't BS with there was no Palestine identity.............
     
  4. Smiley321

    Smiley321 Member

    Apr 21, 2002
    Concord, Ca

    Boy, it must have really been special in 1000 AD, it's capitalized
     
  5. odessit19

    odessit19 Member+

    Dec 19, 2004
    My gun safe
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    A Palestinian identity is a concept of 21st century. Palestine is just a name given to this place in ME, so all those Arabs and Jews who lived there were called Palestinians, but what you are describing is different, but keep at it if it makes you feel better.
     
  6. sahbekham_pactwinner

    Jun 12, 2005
    Let me remove religion out of this for a sec.

    The point is that the people who were living in Palestine in the 1900's(presently we call them Palestinians) were removed by people coming from Europe (presently we call them Israelis).
     
  7. sahbekham_pactwinner

    Jun 12, 2005
    A person living in a land named Palestine (same name for more than 1000 of years) has a Palestinian identity. I would call him Palestinian if he is coming from the land of Palestine.

    But the Jews had to bring religion into it to occupy and conquer the lands of Palestine and make it Israel.
     
  8. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    and people were living on that land before that, which brings us back to going back that far as pointless......
     
  9. odessit19

    odessit19 Member+

    Dec 19, 2004
    My gun safe
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    If you say so...
     
  10. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Chelsea
    Ukraine
    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
    CAN WE JUST DISCUSS CURRENT EVENTS IN GAZA AS THEY HAPPEN?

    WE HAVE BEEN OVER THE HISTORICAL ASPECT OF THIS CONFLICT A MILLION ********ING TIMES!!!

    WE ALREADY KNOW WHO THINKS THE BLAME LIES WITH ISRAEL AND WHO THINKS IT LIES WITH THE PALESTINIANS!!!

    This is not directed to anyone specifically, just making an observation.
     
  11. bigINTERNETTOUGHGUY

    Jan 25, 2008
    Chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    But they weren't the people who now label themselves as "Palestinian." The whole point of the argument that Sahbe/others are trying to make is a "first in time" claim. However, this claim doesn't hold up if one really wants to look at the history of the region.
     
  12. bigINTERNETTOUGHGUY

    Jan 25, 2008
    Chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Am I sensing a tad bit of frustration?
    ;)
     
  13. ZIAD

    ZIAD Member

    Oct 11, 2004
    More like a very smart Jew that wants peace. Bravo. A very brave man and admirable one.
     
  14. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    well duh, so lets find the ancestors of the people were there 10,000 years ago and let them live there. :)
     
  15. ZIAD

    ZIAD Member

    Oct 11, 2004
    Actually they were and speaking of which, were the Jews of today labeling themselves Israelis before 1948???
     
  16. odessit19

    odessit19 Member+

    Dec 19, 2004
    My gun safe
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    Isn't this an example of tautology?
     
  17. bigINTERNETTOUGHGUY

    Jan 25, 2008
    Chicago
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well everybody really came from Africa, so I say we just gather everybody up (and I mean everyone, all 6billion+), stick em in a singular location (around Kinshasa perhaps?) and then on the count of 3, everyone gets to claim their land.
     
  18. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Chelsea
    Ukraine
    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
    just a bit. :)

    To you perhaps he is. Not to me.
     
  19. odessit19

    odessit19 Member+

    Dec 19, 2004
    My gun safe
    Club:
    AC Milan
    Nat'l Team:
    Ukraine
    They are called sabras
     
  20. sahbekham_pactwinner

    Jun 12, 2005
    Now that we have established that there were Palestinian people living in the 1900's, its time that the Palestinian people get their land back.
     
  21. Bluto11

    Bluto11 The sky is falling!

    May 16, 2003
    Chicago, IL
    works for me :p
     
  22. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Chelsea
    Ukraine
    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
    THIS is the core of the problem. What needs to be said is "it's time that the Palestinian people get peace."

    It's exactly b/c it's always been "get land back" attitude that so many Palestinians have suffered for so long.

    What good has come from this attitude?
     
  23. sahbekham_pactwinner

    Jun 12, 2005
    So what do you suggest?
     
  24. yasik19

    yasik19 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Chelsea
    Ukraine
    Oct 21, 2004
    Daly City
    I don't really know. I know that only a 2-state solution can work.
     

Share This Page