Gallup: 63% feel Bush has clear path for Iraq

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  1. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

    May 28, 1999
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    Get those nooses ready.

    Up To The Challenge

    A CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll released after last night’s speech by President Bush shows a very positive response to his message.

    74 percent had a “positive reaction” to Bush’s speech. 63 percent now feel Bush has a “clear path” for Iraq, compared to 56 percent before the speech.
     
  2. Chicago1871

    Chicago1871 Member

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    Anyone with a brain in their head knows that his speech was nothing more than a pep talk [people from all over the political map said it before and after]. People needed to hear from the President to know that everything is A-OK. 7% (plus or minus) now feel just a bit better.
     
  3. servotron

    servotron New Member

    Mar 4, 2004
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    In related news, at least 80% of all people in america could just disappear, and I wouldn't give a rat's ass.
     
  4. verybdog

    verybdog New Member

    Jun 29, 2001
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    I think this is really what's in Bush's mind except he isn't as brave as you.
     
  5. verybdog

    verybdog New Member

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    Houyhnhnms

    Can you tell me what's the party affiliation of these people who responded to the poll?
     
  6. Dan Loney

    Dan Loney BigSoccer Supporter

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    I think Bush has a clear path in Iraq. He wants to steal their oil, and he doesn't care how many people die along the way.

    Nothing, but nothing, about our Iraq policy makes a damn bit of sense without realizing that Bush and Cheney want to control Iraq's oil reserves. They want the honey, and they've conned the nation into sticking our hands in the hive.
     
  7. Mel Brennan

    Mel Brennan PLANITARCHIS' BANE

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    Nothing, but nothing, said here about our Iraq policy has made more sense. If, in fact, Bush and Cheney want to control Iraq's oil reserves, then nearly EVERYTHING they've done makes sense.
     
  8. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

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    Freaky. I can't find any other source to back up the information in the blog entry you posted.

    In fact, I found this:


    So, Ian, I call bvllsh!t.
     
  9. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

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    You call bullsh!t on a CNN/Gallup poll, but then cite a poll from Zogby...the biggest loser in the 2004 election sweepstakes? I'm still awaiting the Kerry landslide that Zogby predicted THE DAY OF THE ELECTION.
     
  10. biggyv

    biggyv Member

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    http://mediamatters.org/items/200506300008

    Yep.

    Bullsh!t.
     
  11. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

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    You could back up your post, but you haven't. Until you cite another source I don't believe that such a poll exists.
     
  12. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

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    Well, if you pay the $95 fee you can go read it on Gallup's website.
     
  13. biggyv

    biggyv Member

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    Or you can just look up one post to the link I provided, showing that it was a flash poll of those who saw the speech, 50% of whom identifiy themselves as Republicans, and 23% of those who identify as Democrats.

    So yeah, it's a bullsh!t poll.
     
  14. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

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    Barb said the poll didn't exist. It's not a bullsh!t poll, it's a poll of viewers of the president's speech. How are they supposed to do a poll on the president's speech...by asking non-viewers of it? The poll is what it is: 63% of those who heard Bush's speech feel he has a clear path for Iraq, and 74% of them feel good about the speech. That's not bullsh!t, that's the facts of the poll.
     
  15. biggyv

    biggyv Member

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    And while I'm here, let me debunk the rest of your post:

    Again, these are the people who watched the speech. 50% GOP, 23% Dem for those scoring at home.

    Among the public at large, it's a different story:

    http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/index.php?page=opinion&story_id=063005b4_edits

    So, on Tuesday morning, before the speech, 56% of the people who saw the speech thought Bush had a clear plan. Out of everybody, 61% thought he didn't.

    So, yeah, bullsh!t.
     
  16. biggyv

    biggyv Member

    May 18, 2000
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    But you conveniently left out who was polled. What's the point of starting a thread saying "Kool-Aid Drinkers Still Think Bush is A-OK"?

    You intimated that Bush's support is considerably better than the liberals on here have claimed, hence the "get those nooses ready" quip. The poll is pointless, and so is this thread.

    It's called intellectual dishonesty Ian.
     
  17. skipshady

    skipshady New Member

    Apr 26, 2001
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    In other news, the majority of those polled outside the courthouse during the Michael Jackson trial believed that Jackson was innocent. Clearly, America believed in Jackson's innocence.
     
  18. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

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    So, let me get this straight. To debunk my post, you cite an "opinion" piece from an obscure Tuscon newspaper?
     
  19. Ian McCracken

    Ian McCracken Member

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    Intellectual dishonesty? I cited a link, and then posted the ENTIRE ARTICLE from that link.
     
  20. biggyv

    biggyv Member

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    It's an opinion piece that cited the poll results.

    I didn't want to make anyone register.

    Here you go. It's the Boston Globe, but it's a news piece:
    http://www.boston.com/news/nation/w...29/bush_urges_patience_long_view_on_iraq_war/

    Perhaps the Globe is such a liberal rag that they make up the same numbers as the obscure paper in Tucson, who knows.
     
  21. biggyv

    biggyv Member

    May 18, 2000
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    "Gallup: 63% feel Bush has clear path for Iraq"

    The article, from the National Review, BTW, does not denote that the 63% who felt Bush has a "clear path" all watched the speech.

    I apologize for calling you intellectually dishonest. You merely copied and pasted the National Review's intellectual dishonesty.
     
  22. YankBastard

    YankBastard Na Na Na Na NANANANAAA!

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    YEAH THOSE FVCKING 63% PROBABLY AREN'T AND HAVEN'T SERVED OVER THERE. THEY DIDN'T CHOKE ON ********ING KUWAITI AND IRAQI SAND FOR 6 ********ING MONTHS EITHER. LET THOSE CHICKENHAWK ********************S GO OVER THERE FOR HALF A ********ING YEAR AND THEN 'POLL' THEM IF THERE'S A ********ING CLEAR PATH!!!!!! MOTHER********ERS
     
  23. BenReilly

    BenReilly New Member

    Apr 8, 2002
    First of all, don't post when you're f-cking drunk. Second, turn off the computer.


    For the sober folks, did I miss the Constitutional Amendment that allows for a President to serve more than two terms?
     
  24. YankBastard

    YankBastard Na Na Na Na NANANANAAA!

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    HEY HOW DID YOU KNOW I WAS DRUNK? BUT WHAT I SAID WAS TRUE, I'M JUST NOT SO BLUNT WHEN I'M SOBER
     
  25. argentine soccer fan

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    Your post smells like cheap Jim Beam.
     

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